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RWR don't see motive they can't think that far ahead, in their anger playbook if it involves a non white person it must include race as the driving factor. RWR are the media and Politicians useful idiots.
 
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RWR don't see motive they can't think that far ahead, in their anger playbook if it involves a non white person it must include race as the driving factor. RWR are the media and Politicians useful idiots.


I blame this Brexit caper ;)
 
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To a certain extent stastics were with held or manipulated?
Not that I recall. I remember the headlines saying that many Swedish women had been sexually assalted by 'foreigners'. But at the same time that they a, didn't record the nationality all the time and b, had changed their criteria for what was considered a sexual assault. I honestly don't recall that anything was deliberately held back or manipulated? If you do, then fair enough.

It's still nothing like the grooming gangs though!! :)
 
Not that I recall. I remember the headlines saying that many Swedish women had been sexually assalted by 'foreigners'. But at the same time that they a, didn't record the nationality all the time and b, had changed their criteria for what was considered a sexual assault. I honestly don't recall that anything was deliberately held back or manipulated? If you do, then fair enough.

It's still nothing like the grooming gangs though!! :)

Well yes and no??

The Manchester report on the scandal
Suggests

"Fear over race relations affected police probe into child sex grooming gang (s)"

Swedish caper again I would suggest the fear of race relations had an affect on releaseing the actual alletere?

Possibly reprisals against innocent people may have also been a factor??? Possibly? May be

In which case it could be argued that not releasing Info could be justified??? Possibly maybe
 
It would be similar if it happened? As I said, I don't recall Sweden hushing up anything.

And no, the truth should be released imo.
 
And one I asked earlier - if it's cultural or to do with the Muslim faith, and Britain has the second highest number of Pakistani settlers, why hasn't this happened on a much larger scale and for many more years? Why did everything appear start about 20 years ago by a very small percentage of men when these people have been in Britain in the high numbers for 60+ years?

Good question! The younger generation of British Pakistanis are quite different from the older ones; living in a Pakistani occupied area for many years I know this well. Most of the older generation (those who started coming in the 1960s) are decent folk. I grew up with these people and thought nothing of racial differences. However, as families, they have tended not to mix, keeping in their own ghettoes, and in these ghettoes the younger generation have grown up, separate from whites, so that when whites and Pakistanis come together they clash. This is natural animal behaviour that you cannot socially engineer out.

The last 20 years you mention would be consistent with Tony Blair's and Jack Straw's mass immigration project. (Jack Straw was MP for Blackburn - he wanted the votes!) A new type of Pakistani muslim came in, and in great numbers. They didn't want to mix in or work for a living, they just wanted free stuff and felt entitled to it. They were more purely muslim, you started to see the more outrageous dress of the muslim world, robes and headgear - dress that you never saw before except maybe at weddings. You certainly never saw the burka until the last 20 years or so. You started to hear of muslim principles, such as not obeying any laws except Allah's.

In the Blair project you got other muslims as well, not just Pakistanis but Afghanis and Bangladeshis and the rest, men from cultures where women are covered up. If you want an idea of how young muslim males behave at the sight of free, Western women, look at what happened in Cologne on New Years Eve a few years ago.

This is why things have changed so in the last 20 years. Not all Pakistanis are the same. The younger ones are giving the older ones a bad name; I have known older Pakistanis move out of the area because there are - guess what? Too many Pakistanis!
 
Good question! The younger generation of British Pakistanis are quite different from the older ones; living in a Pakistani occupied area for many years I know this well. Most of the older generation (those who started coming in the 1960s) are decent folk. I grew up with these people and thought nothing of racial differences. However, as families, they have tended not to mix, keeping in their own ghettoes, and in these ghettoes the younger generation have grown up, separate from whites, so that when whites and Pakistanis come together they clash. This is natural animal behaviour that you cannot socially engineer out.

The last 20 years you mention would be consistent with Tony Blair's and Jack Straw's mass immigration project. (Jack Straw was MP for Blackburn - he wanted the votes!) A new type of Pakistani muslim came in, and in great numbers. They didn't want to mix in or work for a living, they just wanted free stuff and felt entitled to it. They were more purely muslim, you started to see the more outrageous dress of the muslim world, robes and headgear - dress that you never saw before except maybe at weddings. You certainly never saw the burka until the last 20 years or so. You started to hear of muslim principles, such as not obeying any laws except Allah's.

In the Blair project you got other muslims as well, not just Pakistanis but Afghanis and Bangladeshis and the rest, men from cultures where women are covered up. If you want an idea of how young muslim males behave at the sight of free, Western women, look at what happened in Cologne on New Years Eve a few years ago.

This is why things have changed so in the last 20 years. Not all Pakistanis are the same. The younger ones are giving the older ones a bad name; I have known older Pakistanis move out of the area because there are - guess what? Too many Pakistanis!
2 points to start if I may.

1st point is that the age of many of the groomers was actually quite old. These were not all young men so that kind of takes away your theory on the age v decency.

2nd point is that some of these men were born in Britain and nothing to do with Blairs policy. While am talking about Blair - the immigration he was involved in was regarding the EU was it not? Pakistan is not a member of the EU..

Can you help me out with that ?

Please stick to facts, truth please, not racism or weird views on animal behaviour...
 
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