Level playing field, we want to fish in your waters ....Are they nuts ?

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Brexiteers seem to have this romantic notion that we'll return to the days of quaint fishing villages and fishermen singing sea shanties...

The reality is that the majority of the existing UK quotas are held by a few millionaires, and they are the ones pushing the agenda because they can afford the larger vessels necessary to make a profit!
 
And in the case of No Deal, UK drivers will not be allowed to drive in EU, and no doubt, in yet another act of self-inflicted injury disguised as reciprocal action, EU drivers will not be allowed to drive in UK.
It beggars belief.

It doesn't beggar belief because it's a lie.
 
Brexiteers seem to have this romantic notion that we'll return to the days of quaint fishing villages and fishermen singing sea shanties...

The reality is that the majority of the existing UK quotas are held by a few millionaires, and they are the ones pushing the agenda because they can afford the larger vessels necessary to make a profit!

So why are the EU desperate to do a deal on fishing?, why is it a sticking point?
 
And in the case of No Deal, UK drivers will not be allowed to drive in EU, and no doubt, in yet another act of self-inflicted injury disguised as reciprocal action, EU drivers will not be allowed to drive in UK.
It beggars belief.

UK will catch all the fish they want (with the few boats they have), but can't sell it, even though EU want it.

Every brexiteer has some bravado suggestion as to how the UK can threaten the EU in negotiations.....but the reality is the EU have the leverage.

Fish is the classic brexiteer argument: "we are a sovereign nation, it's our water", " we will send in the navy", "their fishing industry will be bankrupt without our fish"...........

It's all the same argument: simply individual threats that aren't in context.

The simple fact is outcomes of trade deals are determined by the sum of reciprocity.
 
So why are the EU desperate to do a deal on fishing?, why is it a sticking point?
They're not 'desperate' :rolleyes:

And it's not the main sticking point...

It's a red herring!

The main problem is a financial passporting agreement which the lack of would completely screw the UK!

And the EU as the bigger player wants to maintain 'fair play' rules, whilst the UK wants to become an undercutting third country!
 
So why are the EU desperate to do a deal on fishing?, why is it a sticking point?
It is a sticking point because the EU have the leverage to get what they want.

When the Leave campaign said they need us more than we need them.....they lied.
 
Brexers?

Lie?

Now there's a surprise.

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What Liz Truss said:

Liz Truss, launched an impassioned plea to farmers on Tuesday to vote to stay within the European Union, but may face a greater struggle than expected.

Truss told delegates at the National Farmers’ Union annual conference that leaving the EU would be a “leap into the dark”.

She said: “I believe that by voting to remain we can work within a reformed EU to reduce bureaucracy and secure further reform while still enjoying the significant benefits of the single market, which gives us access to 500m consumers. We are able to export our high quality products freely, without the trade barriers we deal with elsewhere and with a say in the rules.”

“I believe we would be stronger, safer, and better off in a reformed Europe,” she said.
 
What Boris Johnson said about it:

In his article, titled ‘Quitting the EU won’t solve our problems, says Boris Johnson,’ he responded that, “the question of EU membership is no longer of key importance to the destiny of this country”.

Mr Johnson added that he supported an EU referendum – but warned that Britain’s problems will not be solved by simply leaving the EU as many of his Conservative colleagues apparently believed.

The then Mayor of London asserted:

“If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Bwussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”

He added:

“Why are we still, person for person, so much less productive than the Germans? That is now a question more than a century old, and the answer is nothing to do with the EU. In or out of the EU, we must have a clear vision of how we are going to be competitive in a global economy.”
 
Patrick minford, gammon economist said:

economist Patrick Minford and his “Economists for Free Trade” outfit. It wants to unilaterally abolish all our trade tariffs with the rest of the world after Brexit. That would decimate our farming and manufacturing industries, forced to suddenly compete with global giants. Minford is relaxed about this. During the referendum he wrote that Brexit should “eliminate manufacturing”.
 
The then Mayor of London asserted:

“If we left the EU, we would end this sterile debate, and we would have to recognise that most of our problems are not caused by ‘Bwussels’, but by chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure.”

He added:

“Why are we still, person for person, so much less productive than the Germans? That is now a question more than a century old, and the answer is nothing to do with the EU. In or out of the EU, we must have a clear vision of how we are going to be competitive in a global economy.”
So borisconi did once have a faint grasp on reality...

Until of course it clashed with his personal ambitions!

Mind you, "chronic British short-termism, inadequate management, sloth, low skills, a culture of easy gratification and underinvestment in both human and physical capital and infrastructure" rather sums up his mismanagement of the UK quite nicely!
 
It doesn't beggar belief because it's a lie.

The Political Declaration signed by Boris Johnson agreed a level playing field, (LPF) which ensured that UK would align itself closely to EU regulations on such thing as workers rights, so as not to create an unfair advantage for UK traders. That has now been ditched by the UK negotiators, basically backtracking on the declaration.
One of those workers rights is drivers' hours, which is an EU regulation adopted by UK. But the UK government now not only want the discretion to diverge from, but have specifically said that they intend to diverge from, those regulations.
Hence the frustration felt by EU negotiators.
Over transport rights, Barnier has criticised London for wanting certain rules such as driving time and rest periods to be waived for British lorry-drivers while on European roads, but for access to be the same as that granted to workers from EU member states.
https://www.euronews.com/2020/06/11/brexit-draft-deal-first-of-many-hurdles-to-a-smooth-exit
You can deny it all you like, but it is what it is.
Clearly, your avatar suits you.
 
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