What are some of the most bullet proof cars to buy in terms of reliability these days

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Truck diesels have a strong reputation for reliability - of course they have to be.
A million miles doesn't seem to be too much of an issue but of course they are huge and low revving. The turbos call it a day first though.
John :)
 
I think they're all yellow on Madeira if memory serves.

I've no idea whether these taxis are privately owned or whatever - but it did get us up to the gardens at the top of the hill and then to another fishing village that Churchill took a fancy to.
John :)
 
I've no idea whether these taxis are privately owned or whatever - but it did get us up to the gardens at the top of the hill and then to another fishing village that Churchill took a fancy to.
John :)

You should have taken the cable car. Don't look down :LOL:
 
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That's what the lads were saying at the local garage who were trying to help me sort out my Ford Focus 2008 diesel disaster.

It'll probably be a good time to invest in companies that install electric charging stations.
2 million miles? That's something else isn't it. What do you reckon the sort of mileage on those types of trucks could be at the higher end of the spectrum in terms of most miles ever done?
No idea, a wagon will be doing about 80,000 mile a year and 15 year old wagons would not be that uncommon (so that's about 2 million klicks) The engines would still be OK and reliable and some would probably head off to Africa and may still be working - easy to work on and keep running.


15 year old wagons are now a thing of the past, keeping any vehicle now outside its warranty is now financially reckless - why would any motor manufacturer want to produce a vehicle that lasts indefinitely ? They will certainly be looking how they can design obsolescence into electric cars - wouldn't want them to be too reliable.
 
No idea, a wagon will be doing about 80,000 mile a year and 15 year old wagons would not be that uncommon (so that's about 2 million klicks) The engines would still be OK and reliable and some would probably head off to Africa and may still be working - easy to work on and keep running.


15 year old wagons are now a thing of the past, keeping any vehicle now outside its warranty is now financially reckless - why would any motor manufacturer want to produce a vehicle that lasts indefinitely ? They will certainly be looking how they can design obsolescence into electric cars - wouldn't want them to be too reliable.

Send them over air updates to slow them down / goose various features, or just a plain kill command :D:D
 
Well the link below shows a selection of vehicles from a bygone age that have hit the mighty 1 million miles mark. But these days? Hondas, Toyotas and Lexus, perhaps. Mercedes cars? There does not appear to be the same 'hewn from the solid' quality that these vehicles once had. Maybe it's the rammed-to-the-tɨts technology failing that ultimately cause most cars demise, though. :unsure:

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/going-the-distance-7-cars-that-have-gone-1m-miles/
 
15 year old wagons are now a thing of the past, keeping any vehicle now outside its warranty is now financially reckless - why would any motor manufacturer want to produce a vehicle that lasts indefinitely ? They will certainly be looking how they can design obsolescence into electric cars - wouldn't want them to be too reliable.
Are the new trucks now not capable of doing 15 years and a million miles any more?
 
Are the new trucks now not capable of doing 15 years and a million miles any more?

Not really, the main engine can but it's what's bolted to them nowadays that's the problem. as has been mentioned with the more electronic gizmos and emissions stuff reliability has nose dived, these parts fail often and are very expensive.

All engines can be reliable (even PSA 1.6 hdi engines, have seen these clock over 250k) but they need regular servicing and generally more than the oem advises.

They also need to do decent heat cycles, the sales rep cars do big miles as they do long journeys so they have decent heat cycles and burn everything off. Those that do lots of short journeys don't get the same level of reliability as most engine damage occurs when cold, and the engines don't get upto temp enough to burn off the carbon and soot particles they need to, which in turn ends up with large repair bills
 
They also need to do decent heat cycles, the sales rep cars do big miles as they do long journeys so they have decent heat cycles and burn everything off. Those that do lots of short journeys don't get the same level of reliability as most engine damage occurs when cold, and the engines don't get upto temp enough to burn off the carbon and soot particles they need to, which in turn ends up with large repair bills
What about taxis though as they are always doing short runs, this would probably mean that taxis would need good reliable engines to start with
 
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Well the link below shows a selection of vehicles from a bygone age that have hit the mighty 1 million miles mark. But these days? Hondas, Toyotas and Lexus, perhaps. Mercedes cars? There does not appear to be the same 'hewn from the solid' quality that these vehicles once had. Maybe it's the rammed-to-the-tɨts technology failing that ultimately cause most cars demise, though. :unsure:
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/going-the-distance-7-cars-that-have-gone-1m-miles/
I noticed there's a few volvos in that list, hondas and mercs
 
So do they get coked up when they do short runs during their life? What about taxis though as they are always doing short runs, this would probably mean that taxis would need good reliable engines to start with

TAXIS do coke up, especially the later common rail diesels, the older mechanical engines were ok as they didnt have parts that got clogged up.

Taxi's spend a lot of time idling (as do ice cream vans) and the oil is what suffers most, it just gums up with carbon, they insist on replacing engine oil at the mileage interval, however really they should replace the oil based on an hourly schedule.

marine engines and generators usually have an oil change interval of every 500 hours, but they have much larger sumps, some with a centrifugal oil filter do 1000 hours between oil changes.

if a taxi driver was to changed his engine oil every 500 hours it would equate to (based on 8 hours per day for 5 days per week) they would be servicing their vehicle every 3 months, i can almost guarantee that none of them do this.

in london they reckon a 2 mile taxi journey takes between 10 and 20 minutes, so say they do 2x fares an hour, 16 miles per day, 80 miles per day, plus getting to and from home we'll say they actually travel around 5000 miles per year, however manufacturers now have service intervals of 20,000 miles or 2 years. Obviously there is a lot of surmising in the above but i hope it helps illustrate my point.
 
I'm out of touch as I didn't know service intervals had gone up to 20,000 especially for diesels.
 
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Injection pressures are so mightily high these days, compared with what they were......this gives for much greater atomisation of the fuel so a much cleaner burn and less oil contamination.
20k miles is still much too high in my opinion - that should be halved if you want decent engine life.
John :)
 
It shows how out of touch I am with new vehicles because I didn't know service intervals had gone up to 20,000 especially for diesels. Wasn't it every 6,000 miles at one time for diesels?
I see what you mean about Taxi engines. So they should get their oil changed at least every 500 hours or whatever that would equate to in "London traffic miles".
Don't some of those old Perkins diesel engines still go on and on after decades of use? Think also of some of the old slow revving tractor engines. It's rare that the tractor engine packed up before the tractor frame itself I think

yeah the old clunkers were great, not loads of power, but they were very basic and simple machines, which meant they could take loads of abuse. Unfortunately witht he invent of EGR valves and DPF systems, and i think there is new eco trickery on the very latest machines they get clogged relatively quickly.

also yes the old mid nineties generation of turbo charged diesel engines had service intervals of 6000 miles or 6 months at one point, which then got extended as time wore on.

the old tractor engines and 1.9 psa desels and even the perkins prima type engines were great as they didnt have none of the above. the other new modern issue is the power density of the engines which naturally increases the unreliability.

that coupled with manufactures designing there products to only last the warranty period, this is what service schedules are based on, they are not necessarily what is optimal for the engine but more the maximum they can get away with because they know the majority of fleet owners and joe public hate paying to upkeep their vehicles (different for trucks and marine and generators)
 
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