Tax & Spend Tories

[IT Minion]

No, you didn’t. I worked alongside black and coloured workers.

Foreign workers? You might, but I had the impression that foreign black workers wouldn't have been allowed.

 

[fillyboy]

Foreign workers? You might, but I had the impression that foreign black workers wouldn't have been allowed.

You'd be wrong then.

 

[IT Minion]

You'd be wrong then.

Possible, Mottie can set me right.

 

[Mottie]

Foreign workers? You might, but I had the impression that foreign black workers wouldn't have been allowed.

Well you were under the wrong impression then. The black and coloureds I worked alongside were all South Africans. They didn’t get on together though. Black people were at the interviews in the UK though. Didn’t see any at the Cape Town branch but I don’t know about the other places, I doubt it though.

 

[IT Minion]

Well you were under the wrong impression then. Black and coloured were all South Africans. They didn’t get on together though. Black people were at the interviews in the UK though. Didn’t see any at the Cape Town branch but I don’t know about the other places.

Foreign workers? You might, but I had the impression that foreign black workers wouldn't have been allowed.

That seems to be saying exactly what I said, that foreign workers (like you) had to be white.

Edited to include your full response.

You liked them filtering people out based on their ability to support themselves and fill a needed role which is fine. But the same policies also required you to be white, it was a deliberately racist policy. That's backed up by your experience as well as Wikipedia, the ultimate source of truth. I wouldn't use it as an exemplary immigration policy because of it.

 

[Mottie]

That seems to be saying exactly what I said, that foreign workers (like you) had to be white.

Yeah, they had a little thing called Apartheid going on out there.

 

[IT Minion]

Yeah, they had a little thing called Apartheid going on out there.

So in other words:

And you had to be white. Apartheid south Africa is a poor benchmark for any sort of ethical questions.

But I think we've probably spent enough time on this agreeing with each other.

 

[Mottie]

Correct.

 

[fillyboy]

As bad as apartheid was (and it was bad), there were plenty of other African countries (run by black people) where conditions were worse, so much so that they migrated to South Africa to work in mining.

So yes, black people did migrate to South Africa to work, tens of thousands of them. Same scenario with the Zambian copper belt.

 

[Mottie]

As bad as apartheid was (and it was bad), there were plenty of other African countries (run by black people) where conditions were worse, so much so that they migrated to South Africa to work in mining.

So yes, black people did migrate to South Africa to work, tens of thousands of them. Same scenario with the Zambian copper belt.

We had a white Rhodesian/Zimbabwean in our workshop who's family had to flee a bit sharpish.

 

[IT Minion]

As bad as apartheid was (and it was bad), there were plenty of other African countries (run by black people) where conditions were worse, so much so that they migrated to South Africa to work in mining.

So yes, black people did migrate to South Africa to work, tens of thousands of them. Same scenario with the Zambian copper belt.

From my extensive studies skimming Wikipedia and watching lethal weapon 2(?) I believe they were on fixed terms and were mostly deported after their shifts.

South Africa was an awful example of humanity and the effect of thinking that other groups of human beings were sub human.

 

[Mottie]

South Africa was an awful example of humanity and the effect of thinking that other groups of human beings were lesser.

I didn’t much like the South Africans. A few were okay but the majority weren’t. Only stayed just over a year out of my two year contract and we (Mrs Mottie to be) skipped off to Durban and jumped on a ship home.

 

[fillyboy]

From my extensive studies skimming Wikipedia and watching lethal weapon 2(?) I believe they were on fixed terms and were mostly deported after their shifts.

South Africa was an awful example of humanity and the effect of thinking that other groups of human beings were sub human.

I don't disagree, but to say black people were prohibited from migrating there for work, is, in your parlance, a load of cock.

 

[SirGalahad]

Interesting to see that he denigrates people who go to university.

They place no value on University education but on

Difference is, you HAVE to have somewhere to live. All the rest you can do without or buy secondhand.

The hypocrisy of a Tory who supports neo liberal economics complaing about the nature of consumption.

You could live with your parents.

 

[Mottie]

You could live with your parents.

So me, my sister, our spouses, our 4 children, their partners and their three kids could all live with my mum in the same house? 5 households? Grow up.