Telephone Point Wiring For Replacement Cover

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I’d like to replace the plastic cover of my telephone point with a nice metal one but I’m stuck with the wiring. Hopefully the photos do the explaining. Thanks.
 

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The white one you've got is a NTE (network termination equipment) and is required to terminate the OpenReach line and provide a means of disconnecting your extension wiring, provide a test point to plug a telephone into, and allow the future use of service-specific faceplates for DSL filtering and voice reinjection (VRI) when the phone network is converted to VoIP in the next few years.

Simply put, it belongs to Openreach and you can't change it for a decorative one.
 
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Simply put, it belongs to Openreach and you can't change it for a decorative one.

Well, under the terms of service you're not permitted to change it

That's not the same as can't. The metal one in your photo will work (with an external ADSL filter) but if BT/Openreach ever see it they will remove it and bin it.
 
4 of the previous 5 posts are correct that you are not permitted to touch your NTE (Original white socket).
Basically what you need to do is find somewhere else to put the NTE.

Are there any preceding junction boxes/joints in this cable or is it the cable coming in from the ground?
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The orange is the bell wire - if you have extensions.

Do phones still need the bell wire (other than retro phones)?

Why have you got two wires in 3 and 2? If you had two in 2,3 and 5 I would have assumed that you have an extension running from it but I can't see how that extension would work with only 3 and 2.

I vaguely recall being told that 4 was reserved for "future use". I never did find out what that future use was.
 
Out of interest... although I appreciate the the NTE box is the property of BT, the house that I am currently working in has no NTE box. It still has the oval box that runs to a small surface mount socket which then has a cable running to a slave socket. My customer only plans to use the line for BT broadband but his other half wants a single landline phone. I have recommended using an old NTE5 box (purchased from eBay etc). I am not convinced that Openreach know what hardware exists in each house.
 
I am not convinced that Openreach know what hardware exists in each house.
They don't. However they do know that they never install "nice metal" telephone points as the NTE. The range of equipment that they expect to find as the NTE is very limited.
 
Out of interest... although I appreciate the the NTE box is the property of BT, the house that I am currently working in has no NTE box. It still has the oval box that runs to a small surface mount socket which then has a cable running to a slave socket. My customer only plans to use the line for BT broadband but his other half wants a single landline phone. I have recommended using an old NTE5 box (purchased from eBay etc). I am not convinced that Openreach know what hardware exists in each house.

Well yes. I would also purchase a filter front plate.

This will allow the router to be plugged in at the master socket.
And phone plugged in where ever you fancy

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Do phones still need the bell wire (other than retro phones)?

Why have you got two wires in 3 and 2? If you had two in 2,3 and 5 I would have assumed that you have an extension running from it but I can't see how that extension would work with only 3 and 2.

I vaguely recall being told that 4 was reserved for "future use". I never did find out what that future use was.

1. Some do. (more than people think)
2. Well its a socket in the middle of a chain. Someone has incorrectly put the wire in 4 rather than 5
3. When the R recall button is pressed, this sometimes puts a voltage on pin 4. But this is selectable on the phone usually
 
Out of interest... although I appreciate the the NTE box is the property of BT, the house that I am currently working in has no NTE box. It still has the oval box that runs to a small surface mount socket which then has a cable running to a slave socket. My customer only plans to use the line for BT broadband but his other half wants a single landline phone. I have recommended using an old NTE5 box (purchased from eBay etc). I am not convinced that Openreach know what hardware exists in each house.
First of all, if it's only being used for broadband you do not require any filter. If it's used this way all you require is a cable with a 'telephone' type plug to 6P2C plug, also there should be no extention wiring after where the router is plugged in. As a result of other recent threads I understand this is no longer supplied with routers:(

Is the oval box in a location where a NTE would be OK?
 
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