Fusebox Lamp

[securespark]

Nope, it isn't. The regs specifically allow 1363 sockets on lighting circuits so (just one example) they can feed wall warts that are part of LED lighting kits.

I am sure you know this.

If you have major beef with the IET (and from the number of times you bang on about this, I suggest you are borderline OBSESSED with it), then please do your blood pressure and mental health a favour and ring the IET at your earliest convenience and discuss your grievances with them.

And then never mention it here again.

 

[ericmark]

I would say good practice to supply an emergency lamp from the lighting supply for that room. Then even if only the MCB trips you get light.

One should write on it for light only, and yes I have seen it where sockets designed for one job only, have been used for something else. I this case socket was for the door bell and was used to charge a mobility scooter.

Be it lack of RCD protection or undersized overload there are problems using wrong circuit, but one needs to assess the risks, and in this case lowest risk is likely to use lighting supply.

 

[winston1]

Nope, it isn't. The regs specifically allow 1363 sockets on lighting circuits so (just one example) they can feed wall warts that are part of LED lighting kits.

It has been said on here by more than one person that the regs often don't make sense. We have to exercise our own judgement. My own judgement says one should not put a 13a socket on a lighting circuit. You may disagree, that is up to you, but don't critise someone who thinks things over rather than just blindly following so called regs.

Wall warts and LED lighting can be fed off the ring final as you well know.

 

[bernardgreen]

This appears to be another case.

of Winston1 posting his opinion and claiming it to be factually correct.

 

[securespark]

Wall warts and LED lighting can be fed off the ring final as you well know.

Can, yes. But it's not always convenient or economic to install. Imagine a situation where you have three plate at the switch. You're doing lighting in a kitchen and want LED strips under the cabinets, switched from the doorway along with the ceiling lights on a 2 gang plate.

You have everything you need at the switch. You just need to run a switched feed out to a socket above the cabs to plug the wallwarts into.

And no, the occupants are not going to plug in their vacuum cleaner or anything else into those sockets.

 

[winston1]

Can, yes. But it's not always convenient or economic to install. Imagine a situation where you have three plate at the switch. You're doing lighting in a kitchen and want LED strips under the cabinets, switched from the doorway along with the ceiling lights on a 2 gang plate.

You have everything you need at the switch. You just need to run a switched feed out to a socket above the cabs to plug the wallwarts into.

DON'T us wall warts in such a situation then. LED supplies are available not on wall warts.

And no, the occupants are not going to plug in their vacuum cleaner or anything else into those sockets.

If you believe that you are more unenlightened than I imagined.

 

[bernardgreen]

If you believe that you are more unenlightened than I imagined.

If you Winston1 believe half the stuff that you post then you are the person most unenlightened

DON'T us wall warts in such a situation then. LED supplies are available not on wall warts.

How would you apply that "advice" when the wall wart includes the LED drivers for the lighting array ?

 

[winston1]

How would you apply that "advice" when the wall wart includes the LED drivers for the lighting array ?

Don't buy that unsuitable one. easy. Buy something suitable.

 

[bernardgreen]

Don't buy that unsuitable one. easy. Buy something suitable.

Why should anyone limit their choice of lighting equipment in order to fit in with your obsessive but in-accurate opinion about 13 amps sockets on a lighting circuit.

 

[winston1]

Because one needs to choose suitable equipment not something potentially dangerous. You may thing 13a sockets are OK on a lighting circuit. I don't, nothing obsessive, just common sense.

 

[Jackrae]

Why not run a 4mm line from the CU to the socket and stop this silly bickering - or get a battery operated torch as suggested in line 1

 

[securespark]

If you believe that you are more unenlightened than I imagined.

To coin a famous phrase, you cannot be serious!

Do you genuinely think that someone is going to use a socket that is ordinarily inaccessible when there would be a plethora of sockets readily available to use without the need for ladders?

 

[bernardgreen]

Do you genuinely think that someone is going to use a socket that is ordinarily inaccessible when there would be a plethora of sockets readily available to

In WWW ( Winston1's Weird World ) that could be normal behaviour

 

[winston1]

To coin a famous phrase, you cannot be serious!

Do you genuinely think that someone is going to use a socket that is ordinarily inaccessible when there would be a plethora of sockets readily available to use without the need for ladders?

The OPs cupboard is low down. No ladders needed.

 

[Sureitsoff?]

The OPs cupboard is low down. No ladders needed.

Depends how tall you are...