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Are we breeding scum?

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It doesn't make every person that drops litter 'scum', to argue so is almost laughable.

How would you describe an individual who cares so little for his country and his fellow man, has so little respect that he remains happy to dump their rubbish on the ground and expect someone else to follow them and pick it up? Is that how they live at home, with their parents picking up for them?
 
How would you describe an individual who cares so little for his country and his fellow man, has so little respect that he remains happy to dump their rubbish on the ground and expect someone else to follow them and pick it up? Is that how they live at home, with their parents picking up for them?
Calm down for goodness sake. I'm all for referring to others as scum when the level of incident merits it. You can't broad brush every single littering incident as being conducted by scum.

I parked up outside mum's yesterday. As I stepped out, I could see an empty cold drink can and small cardboard box (which had maybe contained a sandwich or something) beside the kerb. The can was upright and it almost looked as though they'd been left there i.e. not blown there by the wind.

Would I describe the person who left the rubbish there as 'scum'? No. Last word from me on this as we're never going to agree ;)
 
I see the same in my local park, rubbish strewn everywhere, not enough bins for it, young tree saplings uprooted and the plastic tube & stick thrown around, smashed beer bottles and so on.

Re the comment about dumping it back at McDonalds - it's not McDonalds that left it there it's the people that bought it that are the dirty lazy fekkers.

I have been successful in getting a bin placed outside the basketball court in my park, I'm campaigning for another to replace one that corroded as it was so old and will have to crowdfund or something the addition of some more because the parks team representative told me that yes they have 5 bins but that's for the entire borough!
 
I see the same in my local park, rubbish strewn everywhere, not enough bins for it, young tree saplings uprooted and the plastic tube & stick thrown around, smashed beer bottles and so on.

Re the comment about dumping it back at McDonalds - it's not McDonalds that left it there it's the people that bought it that are the dirty lazy fekkers.

I have been successful in getting a bin placed outside the basketball court in my park, I'm campaigning for another to replace one that corroded as it was so old and will have to crowdfund or something the addition of some more because the parks team representative told me that yes they have 5 bins but that's for the entire borough!
Walking back through the park, years ago when i lived in t'city, i saw a row of saplings twisted and broken. They'd only been planted the year before and some mindless morons had just done it for kicks. Boredom? Who knows.
I'm a country boy at heart and i'd've loved to thrash them with a broken branch from a tree they tormented 'just for the hell of it'.

Whenever we had picnics in the park i made sure the litter was put in a bin or taken home and my kids grew up with that example to follow. Their grandkids will be taught to do the same.

Teach your children well and all will be well.
 
I see the same in my local park, rubbish strewn everywhere, not enough bins for it, young tree saplings uprooted and the plastic tube & stick thrown around, smashed beer bottles and so on.

Does the number of bins really matter, we cannot have a country covered with bins just for the convenience of these scum. Even if you could do that, the scum would kick them over for their amusement. The simple principle is that you have managed to carry the goods to wherever you consume the contents, the next step is to take the packaging material away with you or find a bin to place it in.
 
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The UK is the 'dirty man' of Europe and it's getting worse. The younger generation have absolutely no pride in their country at all,

It is, without doubt, not just youngsters.

But, funnily enough, last time we were in Paris well before lockdown, we could not believe how filthy (and graffitied) the Metro was compared to the generally clean Tube
 
I have written about this before, methinks: Only once in my life do I recall "littering". I was about 11/12 and my best mates sister worked in the chippy on the way home from school. We went in and she walked home with us, after giving (probably stole) us both a free bag of chips . We were nearing their house and I was carrying the waste. They had already discarded theirs in the street, and Cathy told me to chuck mine in the hedge. I, inexplicably, did and immediately felt guilty, and still think about it 50 years later. We were genuinely taught to take litter home - so it went against the grain, but, in fact, even eating chips out of a bag in the street was a complete no-no, especially as far as my grandparents were concerned.
 
The UK is the 'dirty man' of Europe and it's getting worse. The younger generation have absolutely no pride in their country at all, so for them it doesn't matter what it looks like. Collecting their rubbish is someone else's job, from where ever they drop it when they have no further use for it - essentially because no dares one say anything to them, when they just dump their rubbish on the ground. Collecting it distributed all over, takes someone much more effort than if they had done the right thing and put it in a bin.

I find rubbish dumped like this all the time, within just yards of a bin. If I see it happening I always have words with them. In places like beaches, where you can anticipate lots of rubbish being left, rather than employ people to clear it up - they should have people empowered to issue fines to those who just walk away and leave their mess on the beach.
Unless you have done a litter spotting tour of Europe that's somewhat of a myth, I have been appalled by littering in Spain, Portugal, Greece, mattresses, TVs, fridges, you name it, dumped on the roadside, I saw a policeman walk put of a station ,light up a ciggie then throw the empty pack on the pavement, graffiti seems endemic on any structure.
 
Calm down for goodness sake. I'm all for referring to others as scum when the level of incident merits it. You can't broad brush every single littering incident as being conducted by scum.

I parked up outside mum's yesterday. As I stepped out, I could see an empty cold drink can and small cardboard box (which had maybe contained a sandwich or something) beside the kerb. The can was upright and it almost looked as though they'd been left there i.e. not blown there by the wind.

Would I describe the person who left the rubbish there as 'scum'? No. Last word from me on this as we're never going to agree ;)

How WOULD you describe someone who takes great care to leave his crap behind himself , but tidily?

What do you mean by “every incident” of littering? How is one more justifiable than another.?

If you mean an accidental and unnoticed spillage, then fair enough - but how many of those in the photo is likely to be such?

Words fail me sometimes
 
If it makes you guys feel better, my daughter does litter picking on the way home from school.
Japanese children are organised to do similar, and you can see how it stays with them into adulthood: the streets of Japan are almost spotless. Some people; office workers mostly, get up extra early to scour the streets of Tokyo to pick up anything lying around.
Nobody would dream of leaving a park in the condition we see regularly in the UK.

And yes, it does make me feel better to know your daughter goes 'Wombling'. :mrgreen:
 
If it makes you guys feel better, my daughter does litter picking on the way home from school.
When my son worked at Maccies, one of his favourite jobs was to go on a litter pick. He's actually a fastidious collector of litter (sweet wrappers) himself. When he was young, his mom always knew what he'd eaten that day by the catalogue of 'evidence' compressed into his jacket pocket.

Littering is a parental thing.
 
Some people; office workers mostly, get up extra early to scour the streets of Tokyo to pick up anything lying around.
Nobody would dream of leaving a park in the condition we see regularly in the UK.

If they were all like that then there would be nothing to pick up.
 
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