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[StephenStephen]

That's exactly what he means. It's payback time.

Just for clarity - can you say who the he is?

 

[Pat ex]

Hmm, I'm not sure how to helpfully respond to this, but I'm interested to explore - can you say more on this?

Best of luck with that one.
And the next one.

 

[Munroast]

The 1 thing I like about this thread, is that it shows up the people looking to make racism arguments, as if it justifies racism

quite the opposite, it shows how some people purposefully take things out of context so as they can scream racism.

Of course black folk whitening their faces is neither racist or demeaning in anyway, and the opposite is also likewise.
Of course their is nothing wrong with a football team from Senegal fielding 11 black players, and similarly it should not be remotely questionable when a team from the UK fields 11 white players.
And does anyone think for a moment that if a black person in an African nation asked a white person where they were from it would be so outrages to dominate the news for a week or more!

Sadly the term Racism is now being devalued to near meaningless by wokey virtue signallers who are now screaming it at anything.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

"Don’t talk about Qatar as it’s nothing to do with us". America is though? A swerve of the highest order that some of the non-diy political pundits on here would be proud of. Well done. I applaud you.

As pat ex said. It's not me that's swerving

 

[Pat ex]

quite the opposite, it shows how some people purposefully take things out of context so as they can scream racism.

Precisely.

Quite a few of the Senegal fans have white face makeup.

How is that not considered racist?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

quite the opposite, it shows how some people purposefully take things out of context so as they can scream racism.

Absolutely spot on. Just not how you try to frame it

 

[Pat ex]

Sadly the term Racism is now being devalued to near meaningless by wokey virtue signallers who are now screaming it at anything.

It's being devalued by racists claiming that something is racist even when it so obviously isn't.

Or denying it's racist when it so obviously is.

 

[Pat ex]

Of course black folk whitening their faces is neither racist or demeaning in anyway, and the opposite is also likewise.

As you quite rightly said, context is everything, except you applied it incorrectly.
Would you use a screwdriver to hammer in a nail?
Yet you'd happily ignore the context when it suits you.

 

[Pat ex]

Of course their is nothing wrong with a football team from Senegal fielding 11 black players, and similarly it should not be remotely questionable when a team from the UK fields 11 white players.

Yet again you are completely ignoring the historic, systemic and perpetual racism present in English football, conveniently in order to present a nonsensical argument.

 

[Pat ex]

And does anyone think for a moment that if a black person in an African nation asked a white person where they were from it would be so outrages to dominate the news for a week or more!

And yet again totally ignoring the flow of the conversation, and the obvious sentiment behind it.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking someone where they are from. It's the subsequent refusal to accept their answer that gives rise to the obvious racism behind the questions.

This subject has been already done to death, mostly by those refusing to accept that it wa racist behaviour. Do you really want to open it all up again after the discussion has been closed?
I'm up for it if you are.
Have you got anything new to add?

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Hmm, I'm not sure how to helpfully respond to this, but I'm interested to explore - can you say more on this?

The only way forward with racism is that we are as one and are equal.

The more and more excuses you make is getting us no way forward

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Just for clarity - can you say who the he is?

Here and now it's you

 

[Pat ex]

The more and more excuses you make is getting us no way forward

Please find a post of StephenStephen's that remotely resembles an excuse for racism.

 

[Pat ex]

In the context of the historical and current specific here-and-now discrimination that people of colour face in the areas of employment, housing, healthcare, life expectancy, impact of crime, educational provision, healthcare, freedom of travel, educational outcome, political representation... etc - yes, I'd suggest that it's more than fair...

You think it’s fair on the basis of ‘they’re getting their own back’?

That's exactly what he means. It's payback time.

Just for clarity - can you say who the he is?

Here and now it's you

Are you honestly suggesting that StephenStephen is "getting his own back" for racism experienced in an historic context, "that people of colour face in the areas of employment, housing, healthcare, life expectancy, impact of crime, educational provision, healthcare, freedom of travel, educational outcome, political representation... etc" ?

What sort of vengeance do you think StephenStephen has been bringing upon you?


This should be fun .......... or more like nonsensical.
It's nonsensical because your first post suggests that StephenStephen has been making excuses for racism, while your second post suggests he's seeking revenge for historical racism.

You see how your flow of comments is nonsense?

 

[Stivino]

^^Wow, you are going your dinger, today.^^