white face and body paint symbolises Hope, purity and light in central african culture where as black face in the UK is just racist...still lets just judge ourselves by our own non existent standards...its ok to be a racists because they are....
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"Yer bum’s oot the windae"
Not at all, just pointing out the absurdity of Bod's posts.
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Not as long as you're here dissecting every word.
Thank you
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Would that be the same if they were white or Chinese-looking or Indian-looking , though?
As I've said:
A person's appearance makes no difference to whether one asks the simple question or not. It's the refusal to accept their answer that suggests it was racist.
If there was a Chinese playing for Senegal, would you really ask them where they are from. Or would you phrase the question differently, like asking their ethnicity, their parents' heritage or something along those lines?
Or would you insist on knowing where they are really from?
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I don't mean to be insulting but we need to work together on this.
I was in A&E yesterday ; a patient started F ing and blinding. And apparently assaulted a nurse.
A couple of hours early he was calling another staff member a fùcking Pāki. Loudly he sung Pàki go home.
I didn't want to add to the problem but I was trying to shout that he's a prìck and chuck him out.
Arsholes like that will never win and will only make things worse for us all. .
I'm not racist. I don't care about the Sengalese putting on cultural makeup (if that's what it is and for want of a better description) that involves painting their faces white. Nor do i care about morris dancers blacking their faces, or people going to fancy dress parties as a black person and blackening their skin as part of the costume. As long as there is no malice in what they are doing, let them get on with it.
I do care about the current constant narative of white supremacy and invisible racism and i do care about double standards in the accusations of racism. This whiteface is a perfect example of the double standards. Its fine for the Sengalese to do whiteface because its cultural. But its not fine when morris dancers do blackface, even though its cultural for them.
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Did you go to the same Pirate as me?
Its not a double standard...are the senegalese pretending to be something they are not ? They are not doing white face...they are showing Hope, purity and light, ....where as doing black face in the uk for whatever purpose is racism...its not difficult...
And that view would make you a racist by the way...
That view absolutely does not make me racist. You might not like my view, you might disagree with my view, you might not think that my view aligns with modern trends, but my view that i don't think there is anything wrong with blackface or whiteface for reasons that do not include malice is not racist.
I've never blacked up and never will in the modern world as i know that it can cause offence. Some years ago I did go to a fancy dress party as one half of Crockett and Tubbs. I went as Crockett, a friend blacked up as part of his costume and went as Tubbs. The same friend now lives in fear of photos of the party appearing on social media which is a real shame as it was all done in fun and there was no malice involved. At the same party there was an Asian who blacked up with whiteface as Dambala from Live and Let die. Explain the rights and wrongs of that one!
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8 years ago maybe I blacked up as a Somali Pirate.
It's out there still. As long as I don't make it famous then I'll be fine.
Do we have to consider the feelings of thieving murderous pirates feelings?
It's out there still. As long as I don't make it famous then I'll be fine.
Do we have to consider the feelings of thieving murderous pirates feelings?
It doesn't really work that way since Morris Dancing is reckoned to be a corruption of Moorish (dancing) and blackface is in mimicry of North African people who raided British shores in the 13/14th centuries. It's traditional, in the sense of being historical enactment but not so much ritual, in the sense of African dancers.
And i haven't seen Morris Dancers blacking their faces anyway...what was your point?
