Not just our NHS doctors dissatisfied

[gas112]

Alarming study - two-thirds of hospital doctors want to quit - Today Times Live

The personnel situation in the Viennese clinics is tense. It could soon get worse, according to a survey of doctors. Most are thinking about leaving the hospital.The third part of the survey of nearly 2,000 Viennese hospital doctors is devoted to the future of the healthcare system - and this…

todaytimeslive.com

 

[Justin Passing]

There was an 'article' on the box about French health system. Doctors striking, one small town had zero GP's..
They're in a worse state than us.
You have to pay there to see a GP.
All the frogs deserve, though.

Ozzy system seems to be ok.

Easy fix, mandatory euthanasia at 70, or for moaning about Brexit. Sorted.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

No wonder our doctors and nurses are disgruntled when they can end up working beside any Tom, Dick or Zholia with unchecked qualifications.

Burnley woman 'paid more than £1m by NHS after pretending to be a doctor'

A woman stands accused of defrauding the NHS of £1 million after allegedly forging a degree certificate and pretending to be a qualified doctor.

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk

 

[Doug99]

I served 36yrs in the Royal Navy and every rung of the promotion ladder required me to 'sign up' for a minimum return of service.
It really gets my goat when I hear of these junior doctors threatening strike action or resigning from the NHS after millions of pounds from the public purse have been spent on their training.

Same with nurses who just walk away from the NHS after qualifying and join an agency.

 

[Mottie]

There was an 'article' on the box about French health system. Doctors striking, one small town had zero GP's..
They're in a worse state than us.
You have to pay there to see a GP.
All the frogs deserve, though.

Ozzy system seems to be ok.

Easy fix, mandatory euthanasia at 70, or for moaning about Brexit. Sorted.

I was watching that on the TV only the other day about the French health service. People in some villages had up to a 4 year wait to see a specialist.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Could be that furlough has spoiled people. Getting the majority of your money for doing sod all, they seem to want more of the same.

 

[Trazor]

Easy fix, mandatory euthanasia at 70, or for moaning about Brexit. Sorted.

So you wish to euthanise the elderly, and the young, who will we have left?

 

[Justin Passing]

People within their design life, and young ones who want to deal with things rather than whine all the time. Perfick.

 

[IT Minion]

I served 36yrs in the Royal Navy and every rung of the promotion ladder required me to 'sign up' for a minimum return of service.
It really gets my goat when I hear of these junior doctors threatening strike action or resigning from the NHS after millions of pounds from the public purse have been spent on their training.

Same with nurses who just walk away from the NHS after qualifying and join an agency.

They aren't really comparable.

If you're comparing officers to doctors then the training period is much longer for Doctors, Dartmouth is 2 years, rather than a 5 years and they have to pay and support themselves whilst they do it.

 

[Doug99]

They aren't really comparable.

If you're comparing officers to doctors then the training period is much longer for Doctors, Dartmouth is 2 years, rather than a 5 years and they have to pay and support themselves whilst they do it.

The MOD sponsors potential officers through university prior to attending Dartmouth basic Officer Naval Training. After which they conduct specialist Naval Engineering/Mechanical training. During a full service career, the MOD will also sponsor studies to MSc for Chartered status. All paid by the public purse............each stage being sublect to the naval officer agreeing a return of service.

 

[IT Minion]

The MOD sponsors potential officers through university prior to attending Dartmouth basic Officer Naval Training. After which they conduct specialist Naval Engineering/Mechanical training. During a full service career, the MOD will also sponsor studies to MSc for Chartered status. All paid by the public purse............each stage being sublect to the naval officer agreeing a return of service.

Yep, and doctors don't get that.

They pay their own tuition fees and living expenses at Uni. Foundation years 1 and 2 they get paid similarly to a Sub lieutenant, but without the subsidised accomodation and food.

 

[ajohn]

Our role in medical education is primarily one of quality assurance. But we do get asked what's needed to become a doctor.

Before you become a UK doctor you first have to obtain a degree in medicine from a medical school whose medical degrees we accept. Courses normally last five years, or four years for a graduate entry programme. They involve basic medical sciences as well as clinical training on the wards.
After graduation, you'll enter the two-year Foundation Programme. You'll be provisionally registered with a licence to practise while completing the first year. Full registration is awarded when you've completed year one.