Humiliation complete?

[motorbiking]

A lot of people credit Nigel Farage with Brexit.
I think a better candidate for that honour should be Tony Blair.
It was he who opened the floodgates of uncontrolled immigration which shifted public opinion in favour of Brexit.

Nigel and UKIP had been knocking around for years and not making much headway.
Once Blair and New Labour got in the driving seat Brexit was inevitable consequence of Blairs obsession with the EU.

John major and gordon brown had their hand stirring the pot too.

 

[Notch7]

A lot of people credit Nigel Farage with Brexit.
I think a better candidate for that honour should be Tony Blair.
It was he who opened the floodgates of uncontrolled immigration which shifted public opinion in favour of Brexit.

Nigel and UKIP had been knocking around for years and not making much headway.
Once Blair and New Labour got in the driving seat Brexit was inevitable consequence of Blairs obsession with the EU.

you hate Blair because of the GFA

you view everything through the twisted lens of a Unionist

Hardly anybody in the country knew anything about EU membership nor cared until Cameron stupidly offered a referendum and then the vote leave ghouls realised it was easy to sell a con with emotive slogans.

brexit was the fault of Cameron, not Blair

 

[Notch7]

John major and gordon brown had their hand stirring the pot too.

you forgot the decades of bullsh1t in the Telegraph, Daily Mail, Express

 

[gant]

Hardly anybody in the country knew anything about EU membership nor cared

When you say something like that I think you must have been to young to appreciate the strength of feeling against the eu as they gave themselves more and more powers. That you profess to be old enough to have lived through those times, I can only assume you lived under a rock or on a wind up to come out with such a statement.

 

[fillyboy]

you hate Blair because of the GFA

you view everything through the twisted lens of a Unionist

I'm British born and bred (Irish parents), I love Britain and am proud to be British, sounds like Vinty does too. Does that make us twisted? WTF is wrong with you?

Hardly anybody in the country knew anything about EU membership nor cared until Cameron stupidly offered a referendum and then the vote leave ghouls realised it was easy to sell a con with emotive slogans.

brexit was the fault of Cameron, not Blair

Nothing stupid about referendums, unless you despise democracy. Brexit wasn't the 'fault' of anyone, except maybe the EU. The facts were presented and the people voted on that basis, and won.

Now as much as you try and present the leave campaign as lies, the remain campaign was far worse and those lies have been proven.

You lost, Brexit's going OK, get over it, move on.

 

[Notch7]

When you say something like that I think you must have been to young to appreciate the strength of feeling against the eu

A tiny minority of angry bitter people like you, does not represent the broader public who largely had no interest and no understanding

The British public enjoyed the benefits of EU membership without knowing and took them for granted….hence why English people retired to Spain and France voted Brexit.

 

[gant]

Hardly worth comment.

 

[Notch7]

The facts were presented

emotive slogans are not facts

Nothing stupid about referendums, unless you despise democracy

referendums are not suitable for highly complex issues……all it does is get reduced to emotive slogans allowing liars to win

You lost, Brexit's going OK

All evidence says otherwise

get over it, move on

Ha ha

if Brexit was great, Brexit supporters would be screaming about how great it is….instead they are desperate to move on and forget about it.

 

[Notch7]

Hardly worth comment.

very salty

 

[gant]

very salty

What's the alternative you carry on deluding yourself, best nip it in the bud is best all round on your part.

 

[noseall]

So is any one able to
Answer the question as to what the limit on migration / migration should be ??

Without it the UK is fucced and has relied on immigration since the industrial revolution. We should be expected to take our quota like any of our near neighbours, or at least attempt to sort out the issues that make poorer or persecuted people want to leave their home land.

 

[transam]

Without it the UK is fucced and has relied on immigration since the industrial revolution. We should be expected to take our quota like any of our near neighbours, or at least attempt to sort out the issues that make poorer or persecuted people want to leave their home land.

So what is your limit

Thousands
Tens of thousands
Hundreds of thousands
Million
Millions

????

As to your last comment all very noble and the right thing to do

But it ain’t going to happen

 

[noseall]

So what is your limit

For what? Those that come here to do our shítty jobs or those that are displaced for what ever reason?

 

[transam]

For what? Those that come here to do our shítty jobs or those that are displaced for what ever reason?

Simple question

What’s your limit on immigration / migration

Thousands
Tens of thousands
Hundreds of thousands
Million
Millions

It would appear that you and others are un able to answer this question ??

 

[Roy Bloom]

Simple question

What’s your limit on immigration / migration

Thousands
Tens of thousands
Hundreds of thousands
Million
Millions

It would appear that you and others are un able to answer this question ??

Because it's a stoopid question.
It's like asking someone what is their limit for how much they can eat.
A question like that needs to be phrased in context.
E.g. How much cake can you eat? How much meat can you eat? How much can you eat in a day? In a week?
How much can you eat with a no utensiles? How much can you eat in one mouthful, etc, etc.