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He continued: "Seven million Palestinians outside, enough warming up, you have Jews with you in every place. You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and kill them."
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Hamas Official Condemned After Calling on Palestinians to Kill Jews
Fathi Hamad, a member of the movement's top political body, draws outrage from both Israeli and Palestinian officials as well as a U.N. envoy
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why less acceptable? They both want to kill each other, because they have both spent decades building up hatred for each other. The only real difference is, Israel is the one making the rules.
The Internet.
Recently:
Older, 1969:
Myths about Palestinians on JSTOR
Kathleen M. Christison, Myths about Palestinians, Foreign Policy, No. 66 (Spring, 1987), pp. 109-127
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A book:
Plus many other places over the last 50 years.
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That makes at least two of us then.
Again, Israel try and justify anything they do as "fighting the baddies who wish to destroy us". Hamas need to drop that aim (which is real), and be public about it, call Israel's bluff if you will.
Former Hamas Minister of Culture 'Atallah Abu Al-Subh: "The Jews Are the Most Despicable and Contemptible Nation to Crawl upon the Face of the Earth"
Following are excerpts from a Friday sermon delivered by former Hamas minister of culture 'Atallah Abu Al-Subh, which a...www.memri.org
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This webpage includes general information about the Voice of America and a one-minute overview video of VOA.
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Maybe Denso thinks this is a genuine Hamas website.
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The key difference is, one side has been carrying out the threats on a weekly basis for decades, while they other have managed just a few very well publicised events.He continued: "Seven million Palestinians outside, enough warming up, you have Jews with you in every place. You should attack every Jew possible in all the world and kill them."
Hamas Official Condemned After Calling on Palestinians to Kill Jews
Fathi Hamad, a member of the movement's top political body, draws outrage from both Israeli and Palestinian officials as well as a U.N. envoy
Chart: 6,407 Palestinians and 308 Israelis Killed in Violence in Last 15 Years
So far, there have been over 1,200 fatalities on either side of the border following the latest bout of violence between Israel and Hamas.
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As far as the kill count goes, Israel are miles ahead.
The 2023 red bar is already out of date - "Since the war began, the number of dead had exceeded 7,700 people, including 3,000 children, and 19,000 injured." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_2023_Israel–Hamas_war
To be clear, I am not on anybody's "side". I want to see peace, freedom and equality. But only regime change in Israel will achieve that, and that is not going to happen. So the likely outcome is that Israel will commit mass genocide and then claim all the land as theirs, all while accusing the Palestinians of being the threat. And anybody criticising them for it will be labelled anti-Jewish / anti-Semite.
According to the Israelis.
the racism is so overt here.
The guys who keep replying with 'hamas, hams, hamas' responses really are embarrassing.
The occupation and oppression of the Palestinians pre-dates Hamas by decades. Hamas are relatively new in this regard. Hamas have no presence in the West Bank even now - yet Palestinians are routinely murdered and their land occupied in the West Bank. The biased and bigoted folk conveniently ignore this - they don't really want to engage with the facts. Their deep entrenched racism is the reason for this.
Of course, any rational person can understand that people who are oppressed and have inferior resources have to resort to more desperate tactics and inevitably will resort to terrorism. Lookup the Warsaw ghetto uprising and countless other uprisings in history.
Also, trying to frame this as a jew vs muslim conflict is also disingenuous. Many Jews support Palestinians and most Zionists are not Jews .
Like I say, no point even engaging with the bigots. They are either blatantly racist or trolls.
The guys who keep replying with 'hamas, hams, hamas' responses really are embarrassing.
The occupation and oppression of the Palestinians pre-dates Hamas by decades. Hamas are relatively new in this regard. Hamas have no presence in the West Bank even now - yet Palestinians are routinely murdered and their land occupied in the West Bank. The biased and bigoted folk conveniently ignore this - they don't really want to engage with the facts. Their deep entrenched racism is the reason for this.
Of course, any rational person can understand that people who are oppressed and have inferior resources have to resort to more desperate tactics and inevitably will resort to terrorism. Lookup the Warsaw ghetto uprising and countless other uprisings in history.
Also, trying to frame this as a jew vs muslim conflict is also disingenuous. Many Jews support Palestinians and most Zionists are not Jews .
Like I say, no point even engaging with the bigots. They are either blatantly racist or trolls.
As this is one of your very rare reasonable and sensible comments, I'll respond:
It's a military occupation, accoring to the UN. Israel disputes this, but it's not possible to define it as anything else. It applies equally to the West Bank.
If it's a military occupation there are interntional rules and norm for the occupying power to respect:
Military occupation - Wikipedia
According to Israel.
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Hamas have the stated aim of eradicating all Jews, everywhere. Do you support this?
I've only argued all along that things will never change if this aim stays in place. If it goes then who knows.
Israel's, US's and UK's poliitcal opinion does not make it Hamas's views either.
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