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Are we a racist society?
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He did something similar in another thread, whereby he asked for evidence of white people NOT being prosecuted because of their ethnicity. When I pointed out that thousands of white men had slipped under the radar, he then narrowed the search and said something along the lines of 'yeah, but how many of those are being run from a mini cab firm' or some such.
I kid you not.
Without seeing reverse data, no.
No because quite frankly, IDGAF.
Define reverse data for me. Because it sounds like you just won't accept that this is a real problem and so you won't accept any data.
This isn't a controversial topic. It's a well tried, tested and repeated study and process.
You’re not that thick, are you? If you have to ask that, you won’t understand or accept my answer so I won’t bother defining it in case I confuse you any further.
No, it matters. Don't run off yet.
Since the report that Carmen included was a survey of recruitment for jobs advertised on the internet, what jobs are you interested in data for?
Carmen's link was an Australian study.
FFS. From the link in the very first post:
Do we still have a problem with racism? If you ask the average person even the most basic question about it – “Does racism still exist?” – half the population will say it doesn’t. According to a recent Guardian poll of British adults, more than half thought ethnic minorities faced less or the same discrimination as White people in most areas of life, such as the news, TV or films, the workplace, access to finance and jobs, and access to university or good schooling. Results in the US are similar. A 2021 Gallup poll revealed that slightly more than half of the white American population believe “racism against Black [people is] widespread in the US”. In the meantime, according to the same poll, slightly less than half of the white American population believe “racism against White [people is] widespread in the US”. An earlier study (by Michael Norton and Samuel Sommers) showed that a growing number of White Americans believed “reverse racism”, or racism against White people, was the more prevalent form of racial bias.
Give it a rest now, you’re boring me.
FFS. From the link in the very first post:
Do we still have a problem with racism? If you ask the average person even the most basic question about it – “Does racism still exist?” – half the population will say it doesn’t. According to a recent Guardian poll of British adults, more than half thought ethnic minorities faced less or the same discrimination as White people in most areas of life, such as the news, TV or films, the workplace, access to finance and jobs, and access to university or good schooling. Results in the US are similar. A 2021 Gallup poll revealed that slightly more than half of the white American population believe “racism against Black [people is] widespread in the US”. In the meantime, according to the same poll, slightly less than half of the white American population believe “racism against White [people is] widespread in the US”. An earlier study (by Michael Norton and Samuel Sommers) showed that a growing number of White Americans believed “reverse racism”, or racism against White people, was the more prevalent form of racial bias.
Give it a rest now, you’re boring me.
That's a fair point, good thing I was using the UK study in the first link, and that the methods were so similar. CV studies show the same effect globally, minorities get shafted everywhere to varying degrees.
If you read the article the opening section is how people perceive racism, then the rest goes into what we can prove about racism because what we perceive and report doesn't match reality.
We're still stuck at your demand for stats about jobs that can't be applied for online. But how would we ever know we have enough of those invisible jobs to give you something you'll accept. I'll bet you'd just change the goals again, especially since you won't tell us where they are.
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Hell, Mottie has refused to give a straight answer for the entire thread. His posts imply he doesn't believe the statistics, or doesn't think that minorities having to work harder is a significant issue for them.
Perhaps he should wander off if he has no opinion at all and doesn't GAF. Otherwise all he's doing is trolling for bites.
Perhaps he should wander off if he has no opinion at all and doesn't GAF. Otherwise all he's doing is trolling for bites.
Looks like IT Minion disputes the figures in the link in the very first post that say according to a Guardian poll, approximately half of British adults think ethnic minorities face less or the same racism as white people.
Of course I don't, but I don't dispute the figures that show that no matter what people think ethnic minorities do experience real, measurable racism.
The story here isn't that there's significant racism in the UK. The story is how many people don't see it and won't accept it when shown it.
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