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Climate Change

We see the curves rising at remarkable rates
we know it ties up with dates for human actvcities whwich would produce those rises,
we can trace the actual chemicals going into the stratosphere by looking for marker chemicals (specific isotopes).
You easily find evidence of wrming in worrying places, such as ice sheets, glaciers, dying corals and whatnot.

No we don't understand every nuance. Where we find that we didn't understand something, it tends to be worse than we thought.
There are several situation where a small change causes a "flip" which doesn't revese if we get temperature to fall to where they were. (For example where ice melts leaving dark earth, the dark earth warms up more. cf "albido".)
Some of those flips would be enormously consequential, for example if the "great gyre" of ocean currents changed course. Gulf stream, maybe soon.

I expect the effects to be bad and soon, and anyone who doesn't think in that direction has ulterior motives or is very dense.
I took a kid through Env Sci A level last year, so had to learn enough to teach it. It's compelling.

I do not think there's much point a tiddly country like the UK going faster than the ROW though, unless we can make energy cheaper.
It has to be a joint effort, and Trump amongst others is too selfish.

It's a factor in why we wouldn't see much life in the universe - advanced civisations probably wouldn't last very long. How long would you give Earth Inc? A few hundred years? That's nothing.
 
I think the change in arguments from the sceptics over time is very interesting.

They used to say the earth wasn't warming. Then they moved on to admitting the earth was warming, but saying it was nothing to do with human activity. Now, they seem to agree that it is man made, but their new argument is that it is nothing to worry about because it has always happened.
 
I think the change in arguments from the sceptics over time is very interesting.

They used to say the earth wasn't warming. Then they moved on to admitting the earth was warming, but saying it was nothing to do with human activity. Now, they seem to agree that it is man made, but their new argument is that it is nothing to worry about because it has always happened.

Add to that, "humans made it happen, but we can't do anything about it now" ......
 
Yep, when I'm not typing comments on here you can guarantee that so long as I'm not asleep, I am looking for things that I can post on here.
You see, you and me do have something in common after all.
You like to believe in conspiracy theories because you think it makes you feel clever, you like to think that the majority of people are sheep believing MSM whilst you have access to special information making you feel superior.

I feel sorry for people like you, it makes you an easy target for evil people like Trump to manipulate.
 
Add to that, "humans made it happen, but we can't do anything about it now" ......
It's time to start reducing the Human population - limit the size of families. Quickly is not good but certainly slowly is necessary. how its done is question - is it by Taxing big families, licensing reproduction or is there another way (and I don't mean by Putin's methods!).
 
I think the change in arguments from the sceptics over time is very interesting.

They used to say the earth wasn't warming. Then they moved on to admitting the earth was warming, but saying it was nothing to do with human activity. Now, they seem to agree that it is man made, but their new argument is that it is nothing to worry about because it has always happened.
or do you remember when experts said it was global warming now they say its climate change
 
It's time to start reducing the Human population - limit the size of families. Quickly is not good but certainly slowly is necessary. how its done is question - is it by Taxing big families, licensing reproduction or is there another way (and I don't mean by Putin's methods!).
Including reducing the waste that we produce, more recycling and less of buying of products that have been made by cheap manufacturing in 3rd world countries.
 
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Just wondering what was the man made effect that made it warmer than at present from 900ad to 1300ad, longer than the present 200 years
Not to mention when it was hot enough for the romans to grow vineyards as far north as lincolnshire
 
Just wondering what was the man made effect that made it warmer than at present from 900ad to 1300ad, longer than the present 200 years
Not man made, as it is now.
 
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