20-40 mins yeah if no queues and appropriate chargers and 200 mile on a nice summers day not a winters day/night200+ miles, then 20-40 minutes for the same again?
And how often?
Honestly, as Rory Sutherland says, the best advert for an EV is a two week test drive
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Yeah, I know, I know but 20-40 minutes to continue your journey (assuming you could be guaranteed to get on a charging point immediately, halfway up the M1) would be like waiting for an extremely slow kettle to boil in my eyes. Maybe I’ll come round to it by the next time I’m looking to buy a car.
Don't believe the bull.
That might have been the case a few years ago, but there's chargers aplenty nowadays.
Don't believe the bull.
what bull is that ? the minute you put heater /lights etc on the range drops dramatically also is every charger out there fast charge ?
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Korean cars are pretty good. Korea is right next to Japan so ... they know how to build things well over there.
No more than ICE (which aren't perpetual motion machines, despite what you'd like to pretend).
And not really a hindrance, unless you're trying to sauna yourself.
No, but then no one forced you to only use the slow ones
Really, rather than argue about something of which you have no experience with someone who does, go out and try one for yourself.
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... and similar to the Jeep Cherokee.
No more than ICE dont talk absolute nonsense .No more than ICE (which aren't perpetual motion machines, despite what you'd like to pretend).
No, but then no one forced you to only use the slow ones
Really, rather than argue about something of which you have no experience with someone who does, go out and try one for yourself.
No one forces people to use slow ones your right just drive about trying to find a convient fast one whilst you run out of charge .
Yet again more nonsense from you .
As for go out and try for myself . I have i had one for work .
What's going to cause everyone to have an attack of the vapours is that a lot of industry pundits reckon that, in the very near future, Chinese EVs will be the go-tos.
There was something on a tv prog the other day about the way EVs accelerate and decelerate. It's giving some drivers/passengers a type of car sea-sickness. Manufacturers are now starting to look at this to make improvements.
I'm not anti EV as such, however I will be holding on to my diesel as long as possible. If I have to change car within the next three years I'll probably go for another ICE and run that until ICE is no longer viable. However if my current car keeps going beyond that, I might be tempted to go EV depending on the situation re charging points etc.
I also wonder if it's detrimental to the battery if the car isn't getting used a lot. My car often sits for two or three days without getting used.
I'm not anti EV as such, however I will be holding on to my diesel as long as possible. If I have to change car within the next three years I'll probably go for another ICE and run that until ICE is no longer viable. However if my current car keeps going beyond that, I might be tempted to go EV depending on the situation re charging points etc.
I also wonder if it's detrimental to the battery if the car isn't getting used a lot. My car often sits for two or three days without getting used.
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We picked up the car two years ago tomorrow and our mileage is currently 19,036.
We have done lots of overnight trips without the need to charge, IE round trips within the 200 mile range. We have done medium range trips like one to Criccieth where we charged twice, once en route on the way out and once overnight at the hotel. Then we have done long range trips to London and back. The longest trip we did was a road trip recently where we did a total of just under 900 miles, with lots of charging en-route, which rather annoyed Mrs S because it wasn't easy finding hotels with EV chargers, so we ended up charging at the end of the day before going to bed which pizzed her off a bit. Instavolt was best for this, as they have a lot of 160 chargers, often at McDonalds, which take around 50 minutes or so and cost us 50p, which was cheaper than even the Tesla chargers.
I take your point, Mottie, there do need to be more chargers, but you can do a lot with 200+ miles that you get from your home charger every night.
We have done nearly 10K a year with some public charging, but mostly charging at home. And, as David Dickinson says, it's cheap as chips!
We have done lots of overnight trips without the need to charge, IE round trips within the 200 mile range. We have done medium range trips like one to Criccieth where we charged twice, once en route on the way out and once overnight at the hotel. Then we have done long range trips to London and back. The longest trip we did was a road trip recently where we did a total of just under 900 miles, with lots of charging en-route, which rather annoyed Mrs S because it wasn't easy finding hotels with EV chargers, so we ended up charging at the end of the day before going to bed which pizzed her off a bit. Instavolt was best for this, as they have a lot of 160 chargers, often at McDonalds, which take around 50 minutes or so and cost us 50p, which was cheaper than even the Tesla chargers.
I take your point, Mottie, there do need to be more chargers, but you can do a lot with 200+ miles that you get from your home charger every night.
We have done nearly 10K a year with some public charging, but mostly charging at home. And, as David Dickinson says, it's cheap as chips!
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I'm often prone to car sickness but I don't feel this. The only issue I have with this new car is the ACC.
It tracks the car in front and keeps it's distance. So if the car in front brakes or accelerates, so does our car. When it does that a few times in quick succession, that makes me feel queasy, which is damn annoying, so I ask Mrs S to turn it off.
We have once left the car three weeks when we went away, and it was fine when we returned. I would say as long as the traction battery is charged between 50 and 80 percent, you will be fine. I wouldn't leave it any higher or lower. The 12V battery will get topped up if required by the traction battery. But if it fails, there is usually a way to get into the car and you can then charge the 12V battery.
But, apart from that holiday, we've not regularly left it for more than a day without driving it.
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Neighbours daughter had a Merc A class on PCP, nearly £300 per month for 47 months. If she wished to buy it the 'balloon' payment was nearly 80% of the new price. Hand it back value, as she had done less, a lot less, than the 8K miles per year allowance was shocking low. She now has an Ecoque, second hand on the drip and that is costing her less than the A class and at the end of 3 years she will own the car.
Cousin has her car on PCP - she is trapped into the PCP system, can't really afford the monthly payment but also cannot afford to buy a similar vehicle either outright or by HP.
Our last car we had a choice - cash or HP. With cash it was list price, no servicing included & 3 year warranty, with £10K on HP, it included 5 years servicing and 5 year warranty. Paid the HP off after the minimum term of 6 months. When I calculated it out the HP cost was about £200 dearer than the car price + service package without the warranty extension. Presently we aim to keep the car for at 5 years and probably longer as the replacements - like for like are now £6K dearer and some of the newer features are d****d annoying and distracting.
Just press the pedals more gently.
Imagine trying to claim that you were speeding in an ICE car because you couldn't control the acceleration : you'd be nicked for failing to control the vehicle.
Honestly, sounds like the programme was just making something up. Such savage acceleration is possible, but neither mandatory nor unavoidable.
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