If Greece can do it, why can’t we or other EU countries?

[Mottie]

I bet they’ll think twice before setting out in future.

Greece warns of ‘invasion’ as it halts asylum on Med route

Greek migration minister Thanos Plevris says his country faces a "state of emergency".

www.bbc.co.uk

Still moaning though, even though they've escaped with their lives but are being held in a safe, secure unit.

 

[MNW67]

I think there has been a thread on this before.

What are they doing which you think might work here.

 

[Koolpc]

What they should do is that anyone who comes here illegally is immediately put to work cleaning the sewers for no wage, no benefits.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

What they should do is that anyone who comes here illegally is immediately put to work cleaning the sewers for no wage, no benefits.

Nope.

Could cause them to be even more disgruntled, leading to damage of whatever they're working on.

 

[Koolpc]

Nope.

Could cause them to be even more disgruntled, leading to damage of whatever they're working on.

If that happens lock them up in a disused mine

 

[MNW67]

If that happens lock them up in a disused mine

That gets to the heart of the issue. What level of bad treatment would be an effective deterrent whilst still being acceptable to most of the British public. I don't believe the public would accept your suggestion.

 

[Koolpc]

That gets to the heart of the issue. What level of bad treatment would be an effective deterrent whilst still being acceptable to most of the British public. I don't believe the public would accept your suggestion.

Firing squad maybe?

 

[Justin Passing]

Set em to work building prisons. We need those. External walls first....

 

[Mottie]

I think there has been a thread on this before.

What are they doing which you think might work here.

Keeping them in one place without the freedom to come and go until their claim is assessed.

 

[MNW67]

Keeping them in one place without the freedom to come and go until their claim is assessed.

I have just been reading that they have been doing that since 2022, but the numbers of asylum seekers have kept increasing. I'm not being argumentative. I am trying to look at any solution which will help here in the UK.

Greece seem to have done two new things:

First is to stop those coming to Crete from North Africa from applying for asylum.

The second is to set up a very rudimentary detention centre on Crete where the asylum seekers stay for a short period, a matter of days I believe, before being transferred to the existing secure camps on the mainland.

We don't know yet whether these two changes will have any effect.

 

[Mottie]

At least they know where they are which is something we can’t say.

 

[MNW67]

At least they know where they are which is something we can’t say.

That is true.

 

[denso13]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1950262154898354312

 

[MNW67]

At least they know where they are which is something we can’t say.

This is what Italy has done:

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But the article says this:

Sir Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister, has expressed interest in Italy’s approach. But trying to replicate the Mediterranean strategy in the Channel is fraught with difficulties.

France is not a developing country in desperate need of economic aid and investment. Nor would it adopt the morally and legally dubious practices of the Tunisian and Libyan coast guards.

 

[Mottie]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1950262154898354312

What has that to do with anything?