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The cartridges in the new printer arent as full as the refills
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That is usually true of the lasers too.
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This is a longer term strategy, not a lot of use for people who need a printer now, but start analysing eBay posts for people selling cartridges, drums, belts, etc for obsolete "office grade" printers. You may detect patterns of availability showing that an old printer can be kept running at low cost. Throw in the occasional purchase of another printer when they crop up to scavenge for spares, and you can keep going for years. I used to have a laser printer which in today's money would probably be about £10K. Cost me nothing like that to get started. Toner cartridges? Less than a tenth of the price they were when the printer was current.
OPC belts? Also cheap, or if someone's selling a whole printer, go and look and inspect prints done there and then for quality. And so it goes on.
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Before buying any printer, check out the maker here https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Main_Page for any history of underhand practices.
Why do you need to print any invoices at all?
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I bought a £250 Brother all in one laser printer.
A set of toners is £250
I bought a non-Brother set. They didn't work. It was too late to send them back.
The printer recognises they were not Brother so it's now a brick.
I could get Brother's official service contractor person round, if I had a new set of toners, who says he could get it going. He says they wouldn't have to be Brother, but some clone inks don't even fit.
One tip, if you want to go the clone ink route, NEVER update the printer's software. Doing that made it stop.
Another Brother? No chance.
Cheap Canon inkjets have been ok on clone ink, but the last one had a print counter. It's fake, it declares the Waste Ink Tank full so that's it, no more printing, making another brick. People have stripped them down and cleaned out the WIT, which doesn't work.
A set of toners is £250
I bought a non-Brother set. They didn't work. It was too late to send them back.
The printer recognises they were not Brother so it's now a brick.
I could get Brother's official service contractor person round, if I had a new set of toners, who says he could get it going. He says they wouldn't have to be Brother, but some clone inks don't even fit.
One tip, if you want to go the clone ink route, NEVER update the printer's software. Doing that made it stop.
Another Brother? No chance.
Cheap Canon inkjets have been ok on clone ink, but the last one had a print counter. It's fake, it declares the Waste Ink Tank full so that's it, no more printing, making another brick. People have stripped them down and cleaned out the WIT, which doesn't work.
Mono - I don’t think you can beat a laser
Colour - I love the Epson Ecotank
We have both.
Colour - I love the Epson Ecotank
We have both.
For my accounts. I’m old school.
I have been using laser printers for more than 20 years. Dependability, text print quality, and running costs all beat ink squirters hands down.
I won't buy HP because of their policy of preventing non-HP consumables.
I used to use OKI small office printers, which are very cheap to run because businesses often clear short-dated or surplus drums and toners from their stationery stores and they end up on Ebay.
Now using a home Brother machine on WiFi that came out well on Which.
I won't buy HP because of their policy of preventing non-HP consumables.
I used to use OKI small office printers, which are very cheap to run because businesses often clear short-dated or surplus drums and toners from their stationery stores and they end up on Ebay.
Now using a home Brother machine on WiFi that came out well on Which.
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Mine's a Brother dcp L3510cdw, now a useless brick.
Unless you want to pay a lot per sheet.
The colour printing was a big improvement of over an inkjet. I just don't need it now.
Unless you want to pay a lot per sheet.
The colour printing was a big improvement of over an inkjet. I just don't need it now.
Add Brother.
My Brother laser is working fine with other toner.
About half the price IIRC.
www.cartridgesave.co.uk
They say:
"Our cartridges won’t damage your printer—guaranteed
Some people worry that own-brand cartridges might damage their printers. We know from experience that ours don’t.
To reassure you, we guarantee that we’ll repair or replace your printer—for free—in the unlikely event that it gets damaged by our own-brand cartridge. This is regardless of how old your printer is. We can afford to offer this as problems are almost unheard of."
And
"Guaranteed to be like-for-like alternatives to the originals.
About half the price IIRC.
Cartridge Save
Pay less for High Capacity Black Brother TN2420 Toner Compatible - Free Delivery On Orders Over £30 - Reliable cartridges. Reliable delivery. Every time!
www.cartridgesave.co.uk
They say:
"Our cartridges won’t damage your printer—guaranteed
Some people worry that own-brand cartridges might damage their printers. We know from experience that ours don’t.
To reassure you, we guarantee that we’ll repair or replace your printer—for free—in the unlikely event that it gets damaged by our own-brand cartridge. This is regardless of how old your printer is. We can afford to offer this as problems are almost unheard of."
And
"Guaranteed to be like-for-like alternatives to the originals.
- With over 2 million happy customers, they are by far the best selling third-party printer cartridges in the UK.
- Full 3-year warranty
- Won't invalidate your printer warranty
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Thanks - worth a try.
I tried calling the people I got the replacement carts I have from, , who just said I'd had them too long for a claim.
Apparently the software updates from Brother are designed to look for hooky carts, and just disable the printer. A Factory Reset doesn't fix it.
Cartridge Save might be worth a try to find out how to reset the thing. I'd already used a secret code, to enable printing of the toner when it stopped at 1000 pages or whatever - so you can keep going until it really runs out. There might even be new spy info online now (not found). At the time the local Cartridge shop couldn't help either.
CS kit is cheap enough - presumably they help if you buy from them.
It's cheap enough to try again if I can get phone support, the shoulder chips have shrunk over time. Thanks I'll let you know.
Actually a link on their site took me to https://ybtoner.com/brother/ which is USA but cheaper.
I tried calling the people I got the replacement carts I have from, , who just said I'd had them too long for a claim.
Apparently the software updates from Brother are designed to look for hooky carts, and just disable the printer. A Factory Reset doesn't fix it.
Cartridge Save might be worth a try to find out how to reset the thing. I'd already used a secret code, to enable printing of the toner when it stopped at 1000 pages or whatever - so you can keep going until it really runs out. There might even be new spy info online now (not found). At the time the local Cartridge shop couldn't help either.
CS kit is cheap enough - presumably they help if you buy from them.
It's cheap enough to try again if I can get phone support, the shoulder chips have shrunk over time. Thanks I'll let you know.
Actually a link on their site took me to https://ybtoner.com/brother/ which is USA but cheaper.
Only if your house/paper is damp. I had just the same at our rotten old house. Not an issue since we moved.
The heat boils the water out of the printed side, making it shrink on one side therefore curl up.
Get a humidity meter, dehumidifier or open the window more often.
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More natural? It looks naff. The ink bleeds along the paper fibres. It looks amateurish. Toner sits crisply on top of the paper, it looks businesslike and professional.
No proper business uses inkjet for documents. Inkjet says "I don't know what I'm doing" to all your customers.
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