John Healey (Defence Secretary) resigns.

[Odds]

I don't know about you, but I don't like the sound of a muslim empire.

The indigenous ancient tribes of Britain need protection, just as they get elsewhere where foreign invaders attack.

wtf are you wiffling on about - You think the Welsh are under attack now?




The English got there first.

 

[noseall]

Could always pay yourself and your wife £12,500 and have the rest as dividends to avoid tax.

You mean re-structure my company taxes at 60? No thanks. I'm not greedy like you.

 

[motorbiking]

you forget what you've shared boyo.

 

[noseall]

you forget what you've shared boyo.

No. Explain if you can without lying? You are not making any sense as usual.

 

[King Billy]

No. Explain if you can without lying? You are not making any sense as usual.

You know MBK always makes vague references to things in his imagination, expecting others to have the same imagination and know what he's vaguely referring to.
Next he'll be suggesting you read some obscure legislation, but he'll not quote anything from that source. He wants you to waste your time guessing what he's on about.

 

[motorbiking]

he's free to deny paying himself a dividend. he pretends not to understand. Himmy jumps to his defence, face first as usual.

 

[King Billy]

There's really no good reason why someone on minimum wage pays NI but a pensioner doesn't. It's all just tax, it's not actually segregated in any way.

It is very much segregated.
It's an historical legacy. The NI was initially designed to fund pensions, NHS and other benefits.
The NI contributions aren't ring-fenced just for pensions, (see above), and any surplus can go into general taxation, as low interest loans.
If it was no longer sufficient the shortfall would be funded from general taxation. That rarely occurs.
The NI Fund has maintained an accumulated surplus for decades.
There is an annual financial report available on the NI fund.

The National Insurance Fund (NIF) holds National Insurance Contributions (NICs), paid by employees, employers, and the self-employed. Voluntary contributions are also paid into the Fund. Receipts paid into the NIF are kept separate from all other revenue raised by national taxes and are mainly used to pay social security benefits such as contributory benefits and the State Pension.
The NIF Account presents the receipts and payments for the financial year, as well as the balance on the Fund at the end of the year.
NICs also help to finance the National Health Service (NHS). NICs are paid into the NIF net of money allocated to the NHS.

In addition, the Social Security Act 1993 allows for money provided by Parliament to be paid into the NIF via a Treasury Grant if HM Treasury considers it expedient to do so. Current practice is to aim to maintain the level of the Fund at a working balance of at least one sixth (16.7%) of projected annual benefit expenditure.

The NI Fund rarely requires a top-up from General Taxation, the most recent occasion was 2015/16

Surpluses of the NI Fund can be used as low interest loans to the government.

 

[motorbiking]

anyway.. back to the thread...
Starmer would rather waste money funding Milibands nonsense projects, than invest in defence.

 

[King Billy]

he's free to deny paying himself a dividend. he pretends not to understand. Himmy jumps to his defence, face first as usual.

Simply explaining your usual MO.
You could stop making vague references that others need to research to find out what you're on about.
Be more explicit.

 

[King Billy]

anyway.. back to the thread...
Starmer would rather waste money funding Milibands nonsense projects, than invest in defence.

Like what?

Simply explaining your usual MO.
You could stop making vague references that others need to research to find out what you're on about.
Be more explicit.

 

[Mottie]

Me? I have very little interest in politics.

…especially Brexit.

Or Tories…

 

[motorbiking]

It is very much segregated.
It's an historical legacy. The NI was initially designed to fund pensions, NHS and other benefits.
The NI contributions aren't ring-fenced just for pensions, (see above), and any surplus can go into general taxation, as low interest loans.
If it was no longer sufficient the shortfall would be funded from general taxation. That rarely occurs.
The NI Fund has maintained an accumulated surplus for decades.
There is an annual financial report available on the NI fund.

you might want to check your sums

£205.4 billion NI receipts
£426.1 billion NHS + pensions

 

[blup]

anyway.. back to the thread...
Starmer would rather waste money funding Milibands nonsense projects, than invest in defence.

He certainly needs to spend more on defence when Yaxly Lenin announces Russsia isn’t our enemy

 

[motorbiking]

was this in the context of saying some other group was?

 

[King Billy]

you might want to check your sums

£205.4 billion NI receipts
£426.1 billion NHS + pensions

You might want to re-read my quote more carefully.

Receipts paid into the NIF are kept separate from all other revenue raised by national taxes and are mainly used to pay social security benefits such as contributory benefits and the State Pension.
...
NICs also help to finance the National Health Service (NHS).

Great Britain National Insurance Fund Account for the year ended 31 March 2025

www.gov.uk

Compare your sums with the NI Fund Annual Financial report.
Then come back with specific questions, references, amounts, assertions, etc.