joiner my ass no way on earth has he trained as a joiner a carpenter maybe ( no offence to chippies ) but a joiner works with more detail especially when making furniture ( attention to detail ) , my old man was a joiner and he would of kicked my ass if i done work like that. just my 2 pence worth.
Am I being too fussy? Joiners / carpenters advice please
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As s chippy, carpenter, joiner, etc...
...I'll just add that it seems very odd to me that the window boards are not extended by 30-35mm on each end and notched neatly around the window reveals. If they were then most of the **** looking stuff would be covered up because the eye would not be drawn to it.
I slightly did agree with the others asking why they were not chopped into the plaster inside the reveals because for a 'tasty' chippy it is possible to scribe a window board a fair bit neater than that and so you would only have at most a pencil line gap at each end.
The ends are of the boards are probably not square because the chop saw blade is blunt on one side, or more likely because the fitter undercut them as he was expecting them to be a tighter fit.
...I'll just add that it seems very odd to me that the window boards are not extended by 30-35mm on each end and notched neatly around the window reveals. If they were then most of the **** looking stuff would be covered up because the eye would not be drawn to it.
I slightly did agree with the others asking why they were not chopped into the plaster inside the reveals because for a 'tasty' chippy it is possible to scribe a window board a fair bit neater than that and so you would only have at most a pencil line gap at each end.
The ends are of the boards are probably not square because the chop saw blade is blunt on one side, or more likely because the fitter undercut them as he was expecting them to be a tighter fit.
I never expected such turn of events but now I actually feel I have to defend my joiner. Looking back I should have asked for the window boards to extend each side by a little BUT I have particularly asked him for them not to extend but come out straight following the line of the window reveals. I wanted it to look modern/contemporary. I might be the only one on the planet wanting something like this but this is how I decided and on this one he just followed what the customer wanted. Also it would have been hard for him to cut in the plasterboard (yes it is plasterboarded all around on a metal frame since it is insulated from the inside) since there is a metal bead on the corner and he'd have to cut through that risking for the whole edge or parts of it to crack. As I said before my only complaint was that looking at the part of the window board which extends forward (away from the window) is not square from the front or from above it does not follow a straight line. The plasterers who skimmed the plasterboarded walls/window recesses have not done a perfect job so the side of the recesses are not particularly straight in most places so I can't blame him for the boards not following the wall of the recess very snugly. I told him this as well on that he did a good job considering what he had to work with. Yes he could have done a better job but most probably what I have asked him to do was a bit extraordinary. He's taken the two worst ones and will redo them from scratch. Providing that the two new window board edges are properly square I will be a happy customer.
Thank you all again I hope you now have the full picture about the story.
Thank you all again I hope you now have the full picture about the story.
Even so, if you wanted them to finish nearly inline with the reveals the you still need scribe them to fit.
Untidy work is untidy work. Oak is tricky but it can still be done neatly. A tape measure, straight edge, a square, a sliding bevel and a sharp pencil are all you need to scribe neatly. A chop saw for cutting the visible edge is a bonus and saves on sanding.
It is good that you have come to an agreement over a remedy.
Untidy work is untidy work. Oak is tricky but it can still be done neatly. A tape measure, straight edge, a square, a sliding bevel and a sharp pencil are all you need to scribe neatly. A chop saw for cutting the visible edge is a bonus and saves on sanding.
It is good that you have come to an agreement over a remedy.
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Sorry Lazlow, but asking for advice on this site, means you need to take the good with the bad. It's good that you've sorted things out with the chippy, but it shouldn't have got to that point in the first place, as a good chippy will not only know how to work with wood, but how to deal with the environment he's got to work with as well. It's not enough to say that he's doing what the customer wanted, because if he'd done that, and done a good job as well, you wouldn't be asking for advice here would you. Hopefully he'll do a more acceptable job this time, and if this makes you query what you expect in future jobs, then this will have been a worthwhile excercise.
Looks to me like he has used a blunt jigsaw blade on the window boards and whilst forcing it through the wood it has undercut...with regards to the door, without actually seeing it in the flesh it looks too small for the frame, I may be wrong but just my opinion. At least he has put things right to your satisfaction.
