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Yeah conjecture and where are the maths boyo you know so much about?
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Apparently the NFU thought that EU was going to trade with us "on our terms."
Why would they think that?
"The EU will demand that the UK maintains a ban on chlorinated chicken as the price for a trade agreement with Brussels, in a move that protects European meat exports and creates an obstacle to a deal with Donald Trump.
On the recommendation of France, a clause has been inserted into the EU’s negotiating mandate to insist that both sides maintain “health and product sanitary quality in the food and agriculture sector”, according to a copy leaked to the Guardian.
The paragraph, in a newly entitled section of the document for the EU’s chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, called “Environment and health” provides a catch-all insurance for the EU that certain methods of food production – particular pesticides, endocrine disrupters or chlorine washes for poultry – will not be used in the UK.
At the weekend, George Eustice, the new UK environment secretary, refused to guarantee that the government would not allow the importation of chlorine-washed chicken as part of a trade deal with the US.
Eustice’s stance has caused concern in the UK where the National Farmers’ Union called for other countries to trade with Britain “on our terms”. The EU also fears that current suppliers of meat to the UK could be undercut by US imports.
It is understood that France’s proposal to change the negotiating mandate had full backing from other member states."
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...trade-deal-eu-tells-uk?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Why would they think that?
"The EU will demand that the UK maintains a ban on chlorinated chicken as the price for a trade agreement with Brussels, in a move that protects European meat exports and creates an obstacle to a deal with Donald Trump.
On the recommendation of France, a clause has been inserted into the EU’s negotiating mandate to insist that both sides maintain “health and product sanitary quality in the food and agriculture sector”, according to a copy leaked to the Guardian.
The paragraph, in a newly entitled section of the document for the EU’s chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, called “Environment and health” provides a catch-all insurance for the EU that certain methods of food production – particular pesticides, endocrine disrupters or chlorine washes for poultry – will not be used in the UK.
At the weekend, George Eustice, the new UK environment secretary, refused to guarantee that the government would not allow the importation of chlorine-washed chicken as part of a trade deal with the US.
Eustice’s stance has caused concern in the UK where the National Farmers’ Union called for other countries to trade with Britain “on our terms”. The EU also fears that current suppliers of meat to the UK could be undercut by US imports.
It is understood that France’s proposal to change the negotiating mandate had full backing from other member states."
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...trade-deal-eu-tells-uk?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
the argument about chlorinated chicken isnt really about public health -its about the US having poor animal welfare standards and poor factory standards which mean lower prices are possible.
its an example where the level playing field protects consumers and the UK farming industry -but brexiteers interpret it as EU forcing rules and regulations on us for their benefit not ours
of course brexit think tank websites are funded by US agriculture giants who then gain access to Tory ministers -ie Tories will make some nice backhanders out of chlorinated chicken
its an example where the level playing field protects consumers and the UK farming industry -but brexiteers interpret it as EU forcing rules and regulations on us for their benefit not ours
of course brexit think tank websites are funded by US agriculture giants who then gain access to Tory ministers -ie Tories will make some nice backhanders out of chlorinated chicken
Nobody will be forced to eat chlorinated chicken. They’ll always be a choice just like there is now with battery/barn hens Vs free range, corn fed, organic etc etc.
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Two separate issues there of course. We can say we won't produce food that way, but that would not stop us from importing said food.
I didn’t think the issue was with UK animal welfare standards - we're not being forced to chlorinate chickens are we?
so it will enter British food products.
Perhaps you should think about it a bit more.......
I doubt there is a country on Earth with which we trade, which doesn't have practices with which we disagree.
Singling out chlorination of chicken is no better than Red Top reporting, in that respect. IMHO.
Singling out chlorination of chicken is no better than Red Top reporting, in that respect. IMHO.
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Ontop of their poor animal welfare practices they want to lower regulations for labelling as well.
Strange for a pet lover to be so cruel when it comes to the food you eat.
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But are those countries negotiating FTA with us?
Absolutely, but the wording is interesting.
70-odd of them did.
Or, more accurately "Referencing a well-known example is no better than Red Top reporting."
Yes it is.
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