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King Billy · 2026-07-15T09:27:40+0100

motorbiking said:
we got there.

King Billy said:
At last.
So an asylum seeker is not an illegal migrant.
Glad we got that sorted.
So why do you constantly refer to asylum seekers as illegal migrants?

So at no time are they illegal immigrants.

So why do you and others insist on calling them illegal migrants.
Do you refer to your house as a plane, a boat, or some other object simply because you want it to be?

motorbiking · 2026-07-15T09:34:47+0100

King Billy said:
No need. If I needed to know I find Google far more reliable, consistent and unbiased.
Additionally the experts are far more knowledgeable than you, as you have have illustrated over the course of the last multiple pages of waffle.

Feel free to google more irrelevant facts.

motorbiking · 2026-07-15T09:35:34+0100

King Billy said:
So why do you and others insist on calling them illegal migrants.
Do you refer to your house as a plane, a boat, or some other object simply because you want it to be?

Because they are

King Billy · 2026-07-15T09:39:10+0100

motorbiking said:
Feel free to google more irrelevant facts.

They were relevant to proving your claim to be wrong.

King Billy · 2026-07-15T09:39:58+0100

motorbiking said:
Because they are

When are they illegal immigrants? Tells us exactly when, for how long and why.
And when and how do they stop being illegal?

noseall · 2026-07-15T10:15:36+0100

motorbiking said:
Tides do not change significantly from one year to the next.

Winds in relation to tidal currents do. Conditions can change daily monthly yearly.
Tidal currents coupled with other factors have an influence on crossings especially under powered small boats. You’ve been made to look a tw@ again, spectacularly, and you are meant to be a sailor.

The Channel has some of the strongest tidal currents in the seas around the UK (for pugwash).

Koolpc · 2026-07-15T10:31:30+0100

King Billy said:
When are they illegal immigrants? Tells us exactly when, for how long and why.
And when and how do they stop being illegal?

For goodness sake boyo, they are illegal immigrants. They get on dinghies and try to enter the UK illegally. They sneak onto the dinghies, they don't ask for asylum before that.

Take your skewed blinkers off and realise the truth for once!!!

motorbiking · 2026-07-15T10:45:01+0100

noseall said:
Back tracking waffle.

Nosenout now refers to the whole channel.

motorbiking · 2026-07-15T10:49:12+0100

King Billy said:
They were relevant

They weren’t. You just hopped and skipped about grasping at articles that had nothing to do with small boats crossing from Calais to dover.

Tides don’t affect how many people can cross each year and they don’t not affect the steering of a boat. The water is too deep. They simply go with the flow.

King Billy · 2026-07-15T11:01:04+0100

Koolpc said:
For goodness sake boyo, they are illegal immigrants. They get on dinghies and try to enter the UK illegally. They sneak onto the dinghies, they don't ask for asylum before that.

Take your skewed blinkers off and realise the truth for once!!!

To be illegal immigrants, they have to be in the UK.
At what point do you think during the "they get on dinghies ... They sneak onto the dinghies" process do you think that they are immigrants to the UK, bearing in mind what I've just said?
To be illegal immigrants, they have to be in the UK.

Otherwise the whole of the rest of the world fit your definition of an "illegal migrant".

ellal · 2026-07-15T11:03:36+0100

motorbiking said:
see previous answers

You mean your non-answers

motorbiking said:
Stand down - BorderForce are on task

BorderForce, the French Navy and any vessel in the vicinity as coordinated by the coastguard would act.

So if the border force is 'on task', why are the RNLI still required to act?

That is a 'let them drown' command to a crew of a rescue service that is 'in the vicinity' and 'coordinated by the coastguard'!

King Billy · 2026-07-15T11:17:51+0100

motorbiking said:
They weren’t. You just hopped and skipped about grasping at articles that had nothing to do with small boats crossing from Calais to dover.

I'm sorry, you must have missed my previous references to expert and governmental references to the dangers, variability and risks associated with small boat crossings.
Here are just a couple of them, discussing the precise subject of small boat crossings, again for your perusal and education.

King Billy said:
Exactly, the number of good days varies unpredictably. Some years there are more, some years less.

The number of favourable days—often called "red days" by officials—varies significantly from year to year. These are days when wind speed, wave height, and rainfall create conditions suitable for small boat crossings.

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Weather Data and Variations
The number of good weather days shifts annually and seasonally. [1]

Annual shifts: Home Office data showed 190 red days in the 12 months up to April 2025, which was a record high and an 80% increase from the prior year.

Seasonal shifts: Historically, the peak season for these crossings is the late summer, as calmer weather prevails. [1, 2]

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I already have referenced multiple experts, posted them on here, and I find them consistent and reliable.
Whereas your clams don't hold water, 'scuse the pun.

King Billy said:
Weather Data and Variations
The number of good weather days shifts annually and seasonally. [1]

Annual shifts: Home Office data showed 190 red days in the 12 months up to April 2025, which was a record high and an 80% increase from the prior year.

Seasonal shifts: Historically, the peak season for these crossings is the late summer, as calmer weather prevails. [1, 2]

motorbiking said:
Tides don’t affect how many people can cross each year and they don’t not affect the steering of a boat. The water is too deep. They simply go with the flow.

Here's some more previously unreferenced expert opinion that shows your claim to be poor judgement.

Good weather and the willingness of people smugglers to cram more people onto small boats have been highlighted by the government as factors driving the level of migrant Channel crossings.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy3vq22xqzo
The Home Office has released figures showing that the number of "red days" - when conditions are considered favourable for small boat crossings - peaked in 2024-25.
The Home Office figures reveal there were 190 red days in the 12 months to April 2025 - an 80% increase on the previous year and the highest number since records began.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy3vq22xqzo
Red days are defined as days which the Met Office has assessed as "likely" or "highly likely" to see small boat crossings, based on things like the height of waves, wind speed and rainfall.

And they even include a graph of good days by year.

If what you say is correct, I fail to understand how the number of red days vary by year. Perhaps it was a leap year.

motorbiking · 2026-07-15T12:15:52+0100

ellal said:
You mean your non-answers

So if the border force is 'on task', why are the RNLI still required to act?

They aren't and their resources are better spent elsewhere. Their books show that they cannot afford to have 1/3rd of their SE stations activity running taxis for illegals.

They get involved because they are a free resource that is exploited.

Would you buy AA/RAC membership if a charity offered free recovery?

ellal said:
That is a 'let them drown' command to a crew of a rescue service that is 'in the vicinity' and 'coordinated by the coastguard'!

They aren't in the vicinity unless they have been on task. We aren't talking about illegals who are a mile or 2 off the UK coast.

motorbiking · 2026-07-15T12:17:17+0100

King Billy said:
I'm sorry, you must have missed my previous references to expert and governmental references to the dangers, variability and risks associated with small boat crossings.
Here are just a couple of them, discussing the precise subject of small boat crossings, again for your perusal and education.

Here's some more previously unreferenced expert opinion that shows your claim to be poor judgement.

And they even include a graph of good days by year.
View attachment 418453
If what you say is correct, I fail to understand how the number of red days vary by year. Perhaps it was a leap year.

no mention of Tides.

Koolpc · 2026-07-15T12:18:40+0100

King Billy said:
To be illegal immigrants, they have to be in the UK.
At what point do you think during the "they get on dinghies ... They sneak onto the dinghies" process do you think that they are immigrants to the UK, bearing in mind what I've just said?
To be illegal immigrants, they have to be in the UK.

Otherwise the whole of the rest of the world fit your definition of an "illegal migrant".

You are really blinded by you extreme leftist woke mindset aren't you!

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