200 mph

[fillyboy]

You could be right but it's an interesting method originated by the police who found it had advantages other than extending clutch life. it decreases it's life now.

I'm intrigued. In my formative years, and for reasons I can't for the life of me fathom, I regularly spent periods seeing how long I could drive the car (manual gearbox) for without using the clutch at all.
Of course changing up through the gears was relatively easy, a blip on the throttle and slip her in nice and easy, but firm, changing down took a bit more thought with the throttle but still do-able without crunching.
I never quite achieved pulling away from a standing start without using the clutch and probably stripped a few teeth off the cogs and buggered the synchro trying.

 

[Munroast]

@ajohn Although many of your posts are difficult to understand (i'm guessing English is not your first language) From what I do understand your attitude to driving is just hideous, you seem to love driving fast and have little regard to cyclists. Please slow down, or better still give up driving before you kill or seriously injure someone.

And you still have not explained your comments earlier about 'Pansies'

 

[fillyboy]

@ajohn Although many of your posts are difficult to understand (i'm guessing English is not your first language) From what I do understand your attitude to driving is just hideous, you seem to love driving fast and have little regard to laws. Please slow down, or better still give up driving before you kill or seriously injure someone.

And you still have not explained your comments earlier about 'Pansies'

Ouch, a little harsh. I think John is just from a bygone era, as we all will be before long.

 

[Munroast]

I'm intrigued. In my formative years, and for reasons I can't for the life of me fathom, I regularly spent periods seeing how long I could drive the car (manual gearbox) for without using the clutch at all.
Of course changing up through the gears was relatively easy, a blip on the throttle and slip her in nice and easy, but firm, changing down took a bit more thought with the throttle but still do-able without crunching.
I never quite achieved pulling away from a standing start without using the clutch and probably stripped a few teeth off the cogs and buggered the synchro trying.

Apart from start stop, used to be able to drive all day on non sync constant mesh wagon gearboxes without touching the clutch. But as far as I know you can't pull away or stop without using the clutch (you can't match engine speed with gearbox speed if one is zero)
the only way you can get away without the clutch is to put it into first with the engine off, the use the starter to get her rolling.

Don't think you can crash (clutchless change) on synchronised boxes though

 

[fillyboy]

Don't think you can crash (clutchless change) on synchronised boxes though

I did, I'm not saying it were smooth though,

 

[bernardgreen]

used to be able to drive all day on non sync constant mesh wagon gearboxes without touching the clutch

The skill bit there ( ie the most hazardous bit ) is judging the approach speed that is necessary to arrive at a set of traffic lights when they are green.

 

[Mottie]

The most skilful manoeuvre I've performed in a car, the first occasion was when I was 18,

I did more than my fair share of skilful manoeuvres in cars at that age. Austin 1100, Cortina Mk2, Escort MK1 all two door models. Front seats tilted forward, a shoe under each to keep them there leaving bags of room for manoeuvres on the back seat. Couldn’t do it nowdays, my back would lock up and I’d need to call the fire brigade to get me out.

 

[fillyboy]

 

[Brigadier]

Should have her legs out of different windows

 

[durhamplumber]

You could be right but it's an interesting method originated by the police who found it had advantages other than extending clutch life. it decreases it's life now.

Durhamplumber - so far I haven't seen a sensible reasoned view off him on anything. The word obtuse springs to mind. Not sure why.

The words ""shot away with the fairies"" springs to mind thinking of you ajohn...I know exactly why!!!.

 

[ajohn]

Apart from start stop, used to be able to drive all day on non sync constant mesh wagon gearboxes without touching the clutch. But as far as I know you can't pull away or stop without using the clutch (you can't match engine speed with gearbox speed if one is zero)
the only way you can get away without the clutch is to put it into first with the engine off, the use the starter to get her rolling.

Don't think you can crash (clutchless change) on synchronised boxes though

I once towed my fathers car home due to a clutch problem. Some one mentioned not using the clutch so tried it. Not much of a problem but throttle control has to be precise. What I didn't try was stopping, engine off and starter motor to get moving again. Sounded like it could be rather expensive.

I have driven some "things" without syncro but this one totally defeated me, crunched every time

 

[ajohn]

The words ""shot away with the fairies"" springs to mind thinking of you ajohn...I know exactly why!!!.

The correct term is "away with the fairies". Which I'm not, just a lot better informed than you are, and some others.

 

[Brigadier]

...... just a lot better informed than you are, and some others.

That's as maybe, but is of little consequence, as much of what you post is painfully - random keyboard mashing.

 

[fillyboy]

That's as maybe, but is of little consequence, as much of what you post is painfully - random keyboard mashing.

I must admit, and it's probably something to do with lockdown, I find myself enjoying deciphering Johns posts, I suppose like some people enjoy their daily crossword puzzle.
Brig, just think of Johns posts as Sudoku, without the numbers.

 

[durhamplumber]

Which I'm not, just a lot better informed than you are

You are entitled to your opinion,,,,I beg to differ..