Afghanistan -is leaving the right thing?

[ellal]

The losers are the local people that just want to get on with their lives without persecution. Particularly the women.

Radicalism takes many forms...

The same ignorant ones who complain about the situation in Afghanistan are mainly the same ones who voted to remove many freedoms that we have enjoyed in the UK for decades!

 

[JP_]

Radicalism takes many forms...

The same ignorant ones who complain about the situation in Afghanistan are mainly the same ones who voted to remove many freedoms that we have enjoyed in the UK for decades!

And some people refuse to take the viruses seriously or vaccinate, ruining the the chances of freedom for millions others

 

[Bodd]

Get out. Stay the feck out. I speak as a veteran of my school's combined cadet force.

I salute you for your service to this country... I'm proud to have finger messaged you...

 

[Bodd]

Radicalism takes many forms...

The same ignorant ones who complain about the situation in Afghanistan are mainly the same ones who voted to remove many freedoms that we have enjoyed in the UK for decades!

And how would you know that? Idiot

 

[transam]

Radicalism takes many forms...

The same ignorant ones who complain about the situation in Afghanistan are mainly the same ones who voted to remove many freedoms that we have enjoyed in the UK for decades!

jeez us wept

The words fruit and cake come to mind

 

[Bodd]

jeez us wept

The words fruit and cake come to mind

Would there be nuts in this fruit cake you speak of...

 

[sxturbo]

You do get that the problems we face relate to the past behaviour of the west, don't you?

Of course you don't, and that is the problem!

In Afghanistan case it's the Russians fault... And then the Americans for arming the radicals to beat the russians

 

[transam]

Pakistan is up to its eye balls in the caper and have been for decades

this is the same country that had
Bin Laden living just down the road from a military academy

and they knew nowt about it

or so they said

 

[Brigade77]

Complex problems don't have simple solutions & the problems in the middle east are so complex that most folk cannot comprehend them. Evidently.

Perhaps we should start the long road to a solution by getting the CIA to disband the Taliban !

 

[motorbiking]

The plan seems to be:
1. Take over the country all smiley and moderate
2. Step up the silliness
3. Kill those who don't agree with the silliness
4. Recreate a global network to roll out silliness
5. Attack those who's way of life opposes the silliness

Deal with the silliness now or suffer later.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

... I'm proud to have finger messaged you...

Assuming that's a middle fingered salute?

I don't like to talk about my active service, especially in 'nam.

Lucky to make it out of Cheltenam in one piece.

 

[transam]

Fact is with out the Americans on board there is nowt that can be done

The UK enquired about building some type of coalition

the french and Germans were not interested ?

Fact is with out the US

Europe militarily is pretty use less tbh

 

[mehran]

Frankly, it's totally shameful. We(the west) have just abandoned women/children and anyone that thinks education and liberty are worthwhile to be brutalised. The idea that there is nothing that can be done or they just can't change is nonsense. What a total waste of human life and effort...

 

[jeds]

Frankly, it's totally shameful. We(the west) have just abandoned women/children and anyone that thinks education and liberty are worthwhile to be brutalised. The idea that there is nothing that can be done or they just can't change is nonsense. What a total waste of human life and effort...

I don't totally disagree with you but I don't think it's that simple. Listening to a military bloke on the radio this morning - a boots on the ground type, not a political spokesman - he was saying that withdrawal has been under discussion for a few years now and fully backed by the Afghan leaders themselves. The Afghan military and police are considered to be highly trained and professional and supremely well equipped. Everybody over there was convinced that they were ready to run on their own and the Taliban was no threat to them. Well, they'd always be a threat but nothing they couldn't handle. The bloke said the way it's gone is totally unexpected and he was himself totally shocked.

In hindsight, it seems to me the withdrawal should have been over a longer period of time and maybe just winding down rather than a d-day exit. But the obvious question now is exactly what happened to the Afghan army. How did they manage to melt away so easily?

 

[SirGalahad]

It's all the Russians fault.

Then the Americans fault for arming the guerilla Afghan army, which then morphed into Taliban,

I don't know what it is with religion why it makes extreme fanatics, the Muslim faith appears to be the worst for this.

I don't think it's right for us to pull out, and it's for this reason that the locals didn't want us there in the first place.

Really we need another 20 years out there preparing the military and building the economy,

Forcing the Taliban to wait even longer will weed them out eventually they will become too old to fight, or realise they have nothing to fight for any longer.

Wars by proxy.

Russia got involved and the US armed the Mujahadeen to fight the Russians and then left them once the Russians had left - mistake.

We then went in after 9/11 but first invaded Iraq which inflamed the situation.

Now the US is tired of its involvement and is pulling out.

The US has played both sides - the Iran Contra scandal comes to mind.