apples and oranges

[securespark]

MMJ

Polyphosphates are added when injecting, as these hold a huge amount of water. I've forgotten the figure, but it's X times their own weight.

Yes Adam, they do. And the more devious companies have developed DNA "free" proteins that can be incorporated into a product, and not traced, because the DNA has been broken down so much, it cannot be detected.

 

[kendor]

Think back to just a hundred years ago and how dangerous the food was then ( rogue shopkeepers putting extremely toxic additives in the produce to bulk it out or make it more tasty!), we have come a long way, at least you can demand your money back these days.

Yes, nowadays they only inject water into our meat to bulk it out. That's real progress...

I think i'd prefer water to the a r s enic they used to coat kid's sweets with!

 

[AdamW]

You can tell the chicken that has been water-injected by feeling it.

Proper meat is very firm and solid to the touch. injected meat is squishy and turns to goo when you slice it thinly. Of course, if you buy your chicken breasts frozen, as I do, there is no way to check. And with the much cheaper price of frozen I do sometimes wonder.

So, next time you are in the supermarket, squeeze your breasts before you buy them. The same is true of melons.

 

[2scoops0406]

In my experience the British fruit usually has a Union Jack worked into it somewhere, sometimes subtley but almost always there.

Union flag, union jack is reserved for ships. Pedantic I know, but I haven't forgiven you for the kilo of nails debacle

 

[AdamW]

True, however I thought that they more commonly flew an ensign of a George Cross with a Union Jack in the top corner?

Which is amusing seeing that the purpose of the Union Flag was to unite the kingdom, then the naval ensign just goes and puts it in one corner of an English flag!

Now, how many Union Jacks from a RN aircraft carrier can be folded and stored in a box of 1.5m by 1.5m, with a load mass of no more than 342.5 kg?

 

[securespark]

So, next time you are in the supermarket, squeeze your breasts before you buy them. The same is true of melons.

Can you tell that to the manager of my local supermarket, and the magistrate? I felt both my breasts and the melons of the lady next to me and the police were called pronto. The case comes up on Monday. Can you make it to Manchester?

 

[AdamW]

Unfortunately I misread my own post too and have fallen foul to my own advice.

Adam 413052
HMP Peterhead

 

[securespark]

Is Aberdeen your stomping ground?

 

[kendor]

With beef, they leave it hung out to develop the flavour. I have often wondered how they do this without it going bad, or is this going slightly bad what gives it the flavour?

Obviously they wouldn't do this with chicken. Have you ever seen a chicken plant? The workers hang the chicken by the feet on a special conveyor. The machine then electrocutes, plucks, washes the chicken. I think the actual butchering is done by hand but I could be wrong.

They don't just use water to bulk up chicken, they put beef proteins in the solution. Which is great for any Hindu chicken eaters out there.

I saw that program what actually happens is as you say they hang by their feet flapping away and as they move along the conveyor ahead are two strategically placed parallel rails which their necks fit into, a section of the rail is electrified and stuns the birds then the rails gently start to fall off down and stretch the chickens necks until the heads snap off! and yes even when stunned and finally beheaded some of the chickens were still flapping!! and they call it humane killing??

 

[AdamW]

Is Aberdeen your stomping ground?

Nope, I just went on Google and searched for "HMP sexual offenders" and came up with that: it has a specialist unit apparently.

Never been to Scotland properly, only driven up into it, stopped at Ben Nevis, pranced up and down that and driven out again. I thought there would have been more ginger people.

 

[AdamW]

and yes even when stunned and finally beheaded some of the chickens were still flapping!! and they call it humane killing??

I suppose we hit an interesting ethical point here: what makes it humane or inhumane? I mean, if the chicken has been beheaded, the fact that it is still flapping does not affect the humanity of this. After all, the body itself has no consciousness.

When eating live oysters, one is torturing and mutilating a living creature before eating it live. However, as the oyster has no brain, merely a reactive nervous system (preset reactions to stimuli) it is believed it can't "feel" pain in the same way a brain-toting animal does. It has been said this is not inhumane, merely unethical. I think that after beheading this would apply to a chicken.

How many people would be vegetarians if they had to kill their own meat? Me for one. I did experiment with vegetarianism on ethical grounds but as soon as barbecue season came around it was hard to resist. In fact, the only person I know to have killed their own meat regularly is a woman who was a strict vegetarian, then went to do voluntary work in Africa. The only food around her village was meat, and she decided she would rather catch and cook her own rat-like things than eat unidentified bits of goat. So, vegetarian to hunter-gatherer in one step! Then there is my grandfather: brought up on a farm in the valleys boyo. Loves animals, has great respect for them and animals seem to feel the same back to him. But when one needs killing, he will do it in a flash.

 

[kendor]

the birds were flapping even after the stun so i wonder if they felt their necks being stretched to ripping point?

 

[mildmanneredjanitor]

Well, this thread has made me chuckle and hurl all at the same time!!!

Just been the fridge and picked up a packet of wafer thin smoked ham slices and read the label...

'reformed from pieces of cured pork leg meat, cooked and beech wood smoked. With not more than 20% added water'

Ingredients: Pork (%79), water, salt, flavour, dextrose, stabilisers: sodium & potassium diphosphates, sodium tri-& polyphosphates; preservatives: sodium nitrate, potassium nitrate; antioxidant: sodium ascorbate.

Mmmmmmm, nice!

Sounds more like a recipe for an explosive!

When the label proudly states, 'No less than %60 meat' as if this is a good thing!!! Makes me chuckle

 

[AdamW]

Anyone who has a cat, try reading the label for THEIR food. Last time I read my parents' cats tins of Kitty Kat it was something like 4% whatever flavour it was meant to be, the rest was "meat and mineral derivatives" or some such thing.

Poor bu**ers, no wonder cats get so excited around barbecues, finally some proper meat! Can't be fun when you are an obligate carnivore and are forced to eat rubbish.

At least the ham is "pork leg", I have seen several things that list the ingredients as something incredibly generic such as "meat" or "beef"... and try reading the ingredients for Ross frozen grill steaks, it actually includes "beef heart" in the ingredients! That was a packet that never got opened

 

[breezer]

why dont they make dog food in "postmans leg" flavour?