April 6th Changes

[sergeantash]

I see that since April 6th the following now applies:

1) The range of electrical installation work that is notifiable has been reduced. Kitchens and gardens are now no-longer considered ‘special’ locations.

What is the actual/real impact of this? Does it mean that electrical work carried out in a kitchen no longer requires local building/planning notification and that effectively allowances such as installation of an additional socket on a ring is now permitted in a kitchen without notification?

 

[Taylortwocities]

This has already been discussed TO DEATH in the run up to April 6th.
Try this short discussion for starters
//www.diynot.com/forums/electrics/revised-part-p-6th-april.351896/

You are correct per your above post. Just providing it is not notiifiable because of issues like
new circuit
new/change of consumer unit, etc.

 

[JohnW2]

What is the actual/real impact of this? Does it mean that electrical work carried out in a kitchen no longer requires local building/planning notification and that effectively allowances such as installation of an additional socket on a ring is now permitted in a kitchen without notification?

Yes, it means exactly that.

The other major change (other than a marked reduction of what is notifiable) is that, even for that work which remains notifiable, one theoretically has an alternative of using a 'third party certifier' (if one can find one!), rather than notifying to LABC.

Kind Regards, John

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

What is the actual/real impact of this?

Backward steps concerning the safety of electrical installation within domestic properties.

Does it mean that electrical work carried out in a kitchen no longer requires local building/planning notification

No

that effectively allowances such as installation of an additional socket on a ring is now permitted in a kitchen without notification?

Yes

 

[JohnW2]

Does it mean that electrical work carried out in a kitchen no longer requires local building/planning notification

No

that effectively allowances such as installation of an additional socket on a ring is now permitted in a kitchen without notification?

Yes

Lest anyone thought that my earlier 'yes' answer applied to both of those questions (and not just the second, which was was my intention), I think the answer to the first one should be 'it depends'. Work in a kitchen no longer requires notification unless it involves installation of a 'new circuit'.

Kind Regards, John

 

[sergeantash]

Thanks all, really appreciate the confirmation.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Work in a kitchen no longer requires notification unless it involves installation of a 'new circuit'.

So no then? to "electrical work carried out in a kitchen no longer requires local building/planning notification"
As it does still require, in some instances to be notified.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Lest anyone thought that my earlier 'yes' answer applied to both of those questions

Shouldn't it?

sergeantash wrote:
Does it mean that electrical work carried out in a kitchen no longer requires local building/planning notification.

sergeantash wrote:
that effectively allowances such as installation of an additional socket on a ring is now permitted in a kitchen without notification?

 

[sergeantash]

John's response was interpreted exactly as he intended at my end...he was addressing the summary/example that I had given.

 

[JohnW2]

Lest anyone thought that my earlier 'yes' answer applied to both of those questions

Shouldn't it? sergeantash wrote:
Does it mean that electrical work carried out in a kitchen no longer requires local building/planning notification.
sergeantash wrote:
that effectively allowances such as installation of an additional socket on a ring is now permitted in a kitchen without notification?

Goodness, is it Friday evening already? I don't know about "shouldn't it" - that certainly wasn't my intent. On reflection, I probably should have only quoted the second part of the question, since that was the specific to which I was actually responding. It was only when I saw PBoD's post that I realised there was a potential ambiguity, and therefore posted the clarification.

In any event, as we now know, the OP interpreted my first post 'as I had intended', anyway!

Kind Regards, John

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

John's response was interpreted exactly as he intended at my end...he was addressing the summary/example that I had given.

It was an untruth though!

 

[EFLImpudence]

What is the actual/real impact of this?

To answer this part -

I think the biggest impact is that large companies who SELL and fit kitchens no longer have the cost and bother of having to register (with all that entails) their employees.

As, if I am correct, I thought that this was one of the main reasons why registration was introduced in the first place cynics may feel that a certain amount of lobbying has taken place to remove this cost and bother form these companies as it makes no difference to me because I still need to install new circuits, consumer units and work in special locations.

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

Goodness, is it Friday evening already?

Really Pub then

 

[JohnW2]

Goodness, is it Friday evening already?

Really Pub then

I've done the next-best thing - opened a bottle

Kind Regards, John

 

[EFLImpudence]

Yep, another week gone.

In any event, as we now know, the OP interpreted my first post 'as I had intended', anyway!

I did think that just as ambiguous as the rest of the posts.

Obviously, because you qualified your first answer, it was presumably not as you intended and we do not know from sergeantash's statement how he interpreted what he thought you intended.

To clarify NO electrical work is now notifiable because it is in a kitchen.