British Gas trainees and wages
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standard practice on our patch where virtually no one works overtime.
backshift was hell anyway and i see you have been brainwashed into thinking its "your" work. nothing of the sort....its up to ucad to sort out workload....you are there to do 8 hrs work.
i must admit i wasnt popular at ucad
backshift was hell anyway and i see you have been brainwashed into thinking its "your" work. nothing of the sort....its up to ucad to sort out workload....you are there to do 8 hrs work.
i must admit i wasnt popular at ucad
Not really brainwashed but there is no way you can get to 4.30 without knowing you have more work than you can complete and sending it back at that late hour just means someone else will suffer. Sometimes need a little give and take but I'd rather put myself out than dump on a colleague (unless they had dumped on me of course 
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i usually returned jobs twice. once at 3pm and once at 430-5pm.
no one else except the backshift guys would recieving work after 430 anyway so i wasnt putting anyone out. if i was on backshift i would regularly return work if it would put me past my finish time. if i was on GA and got the same work back, i would phone the customer and if it was not within my contract i would send it back again.
ive been told this sort of thing is less and less necessary these days.
no one else except the backshift guys would recieving work after 430 anyway so i wasnt putting anyone out. if i was on backshift i would regularly return work if it would put me past my finish time. if i was on GA and got the same work back, i would phone the customer and if it was not within my contract i would send it back again.
ive been told this sort of thing is less and less necessary these days.
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I was on installation so it was a different ball game to service & breakdown, we were in the hands of the surveyers, if they f*ck*d up with the times it was us who payed the price, yes we could get an asp but the extra work put on the job usually put us behind with the next one unless we worked late.
You couldn't pass work on to someone else usually because there was no one else available because we were short of fitters on the patch & the other point being that the times were to tight to share any hours with anyone else.
You couldn't pass work on to someone else usually because there was no one else available because we were short of fitters on the patch & the other point being that the times were to tight to share any hours with anyone else.
I did 12 years and the best thing I ever did was to tell my boss to shove the job where the sun don't shine. All the sales bo**ocks, I couldn't handle it, I was trained to repair boilers which I did ,but told I was sh*te because I couldnt flog a powerflush or upgrade once a month.
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Softus said:Home by 5.15 every day except for once a month?keego said:
My opinion of BG engineers has plumbed new depths.
(Oh, and yes I did see what you posted originally, and I'm not surprised that you thought better of it.).
why? thats what i was contracted to do.
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Totally with you on this point Nickso there where far too many engineers bullied into believing it was there work an not actually the company`s . With field managers accepting too much work onto the patch to allow for un completed jobs,tenant outs, an recalls just to hit targets. Thus ucad operators piling too much work down and not monitoring it correctly etc etc... Never worked more than 15 mins past finish time and that was very rare always took the 1 hour lunch break even if this was the last hour of the shift. As a TU rep you can only help people who want to help themselves got in hundreds of arguements an spent hours on phone only for the guys you where tryin to help to sh#te on you by doing it all again the next day.... Olski just say no politely at first then more forceful it is quite easy to do. But if you do stay on i hope you book it as overtime.
In reply to the original question,I am commencing employment with B.G on 12/2 as a trainee service fitter.The training is 30 weeks duration during which time the wage is £18,700.Upon completion of the training this rises to £21,950.
In reply to the original question,I am commencing employment with B.G on 12/2 as a trainee service fitter.The training is 30 weeks duration during which time the wage is £18,700.Upon completion of the training this rises to £21,950.
in relation to the above the training seems to be to get u thru the ACS exams with lots of theory thrown in extra,, all the systems i/ve seen in the training centre (s)seem to be new chbs etc ,,but after 30wks of bg brainwashing all u will be interested in is selling anyway,,and i have 15yrs with the company and i dont sell although my tsm says they want 30 leads a year from us now ,,,
in relation to the above the training seems to be to get u thru the ACS exams with lots of theory thrown in extra,, all the systems i/ve seen in the training centre (s)seem to be new chbs etc ,,but after 30wks of bg brainwashing all u will be interested in is selling anyway,,and i have 15yrs with the company and i dont sell although my tsm says they want 30 leads a year from us now ,,,
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i've been working with scottish gas for the last 2 and a tad years.
When I originally applyed for the job It was advertised as a 1yr apprentiship with starting salary of 15k ish, and a qualified wage of 26k
Now In reality that means 30 weeks training (spread over a year with you out with a mentor the rest of the time)
then after they fanny you about for a couple of months running errands, you go into a "buddy" proccess for 10 weeks, (potentially much longer if you make a mistake in that time) and after completion of that you'll be moved to 21k,
after this you work on your own until your performance is adequate, or when your manager decides is good for them. and only then you get moved to shifts and 26k
Im still on 21 :S lol
my big moan about it is not the poor planning/hestia jobs etc, its the lack of experience and hassle.
By experience I mean, you go to a job, find a leak on a cylinder/rad/heat exchanger etc, you don't go back and fix it, you arrange a long duration engineer to go back.
You quote for powerflushed allday instead of getting the time to just go find a blockage and get on with some decent work.
And hassle, well, choose a good ring tone for the mobile you get cos youll wake up sweating during the night to the permanent ringtone in your head.
lol, Im being a bit harsh, but ive had a bad day, and obviously this is only personal experience from one patch. But they do give good training and you will enjoy the training, but its just not the equivalent of a real apprentiship i wouldn't have thought.
Whats the next move from here? Id like to go out on my own eventually, but cant be nearly ready at this stage, but don't feel ill get much more experience with SG, (and Im really fed up with it) but I cant really afford a big wage drop.
whats the view of those corgis who have left the gas board, or dont work for them, where would you go from here if you want out?
When I originally applyed for the job It was advertised as a 1yr apprentiship with starting salary of 15k ish, and a qualified wage of 26k
Now In reality that means 30 weeks training (spread over a year with you out with a mentor the rest of the time)
then after they fanny you about for a couple of months running errands, you go into a "buddy" proccess for 10 weeks, (potentially much longer if you make a mistake in that time) and after completion of that you'll be moved to 21k,
after this you work on your own until your performance is adequate, or when your manager decides is good for them. and only then you get moved to shifts and 26k
Im still on 21 :S lol
my big moan about it is not the poor planning/hestia jobs etc, its the lack of experience and hassle.
By experience I mean, you go to a job, find a leak on a cylinder/rad/heat exchanger etc, you don't go back and fix it, you arrange a long duration engineer to go back.
You quote for powerflushed allday instead of getting the time to just go find a blockage and get on with some decent work.
And hassle, well, choose a good ring tone for the mobile you get cos youll wake up sweating during the night to the permanent ringtone in your head.
lol, Im being a bit harsh, but ive had a bad day, and obviously this is only personal experience from one patch. But they do give good training and you will enjoy the training, but its just not the equivalent of a real apprentiship i wouldn't have thought.
Whats the next move from here? Id like to go out on my own eventually, but cant be nearly ready at this stage, but don't feel ill get much more experience with SG, (and Im really fed up with it) but I cant really afford a big wage drop.
whats the view of those corgis who have left the gas board, or dont work for them, where would you go from here if you want out?
