Can't get the staff

[Dork Lard]

People should be taking responsibility for their health . Eating well and excercising. Not like sitting on their backsides all day on trivial internet forums getting fatter.
Futile internet forum usage should be restricted. That’s a good start.
Dependancy on the NHS by fat smoking inactive motionless lazy forum dwellers should be illegal.

You forgot to add your next illness.

Whatever it is, the internettys thinks that you are to blame & therefore you should be responsible for all of your treatment £costs. As well as paying to park your car during the numerous visists to the clinic, which makes £8 a day for a stay in hospital pale into insignificance.

 

[Mottie]

Ellal is correct though.

the Tory party are endlessly privatising the NHS, contract by contract

why?

because this:

'Selling off NHS for profit': Full list of MPs with links to private healthcare firms

PM David Cameron and Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt, Lib Dems Nick Clegg and Vince Cable are also on the list - here is the full rundown. Is your MP on there?

www.mirror.co.uk

Yeah, I had my hernia done privately and it was paid for by the NHS. Bloody brilliant it was - my own room, private facilities, food menu, press button for tea and coffee for myself or visitors, Sky TV and a good Wifi signal. Should I have said 'Ballcocks to that - I’d rather wait another 18 months for a space in an NHS hospital"? What would you have done?

Feck me, you could use that link to get loads of questions for that game show. Tenuous.

"11. Aidan Burley​

Received six bottles of wine from Hitachi consultants for a speech in 2011. Hitachi Consulting UK built an online ‘portal’ for NHS commissioners to help them monitor performance".

Six bottles of wine for making a speech, eh? Wowser! I might look into booking him for our next quiz night.

 

[charliegolf]

Bit difficult to find for for doctors and dentists. Older info but some aspects have been around for all for a while

Student Services | NHSBSA

Information on funding available for eligible medical and dental students

www.gov.uk

That appears to say from year 5 of a 6 year doc course. Not what I had in mind.

 

[ajohn]

That appears to say from year 5 of a 6 year doc course. Not what I had in mind.

For some reason the doctors bursaries seem to be pretty minor. Nurses entirely different.

Maybe it's becuase they are all thought to come from affluent families.

 

[Dork Lard]

If you don't think that your NHS is being purposefully steered into the ground . . . . Then compare trying to book an appointment with your GP to booking a slot at the vets for your favourite pet.

 

[charliegolf]

If you don't think that your NHS is being purposefully steered into the ground . . . . Then compare trying to book an appointment with your GP to booking a slot at the vets for your favourite pet.

Why? Are the vets all NHS doctors who left?

 

[ajohn]

Then compare trying to book an appointment with your GP

Due to changes the gov intended to make a while ago one of my GP's said they were a powerful body and no one can make them do anything if they refuse.It related to sick notes, Tory idea - self certification is no good so pass the buck. They will issue notes if some one is examined and they need it. The don't want to know about things that fix themselves in a couple of days. I don't blame them.

What seems to have happened is no more long queues and attempting to handle people in a few mins. There was a change at mine first. Shorter queues but I still had a long wait. He apologised as had 2 people who received very bad news. That can't be handled quickly - as he pointed out. I'd be inclined to agree.

Don't forget that many go see them too soon and they aren't there for emergencies. For things a GP should be used for a few days doesn't really make much difference. Big problem - people need to be sensible about it. If a hospital appointment is the result it wont be the day after.

 

[JohnD]

. If a hospital appointment is the result it wont be the day after.

I knew two people who had heart bypasses. both of them were sent straight to hosp by GP

One of them told me "the doctor examined me and said I had to go to hospital. I took out my diary and asked when it might be. He said, "now, you're going in now." i said "all right, I'll go home and get my toothbrush and pyjamas." He said "no, you're going straight there. your wife can bring your toothbrush later."

 

[Mottie]

I knew two people who had heart bypasses. both of them were sent straight to hosp by GP

One of them told me "the doctor examined me and said I had to go to hospital. I took out my diary and asked when it might be. He said, "now, you're going in now." i said "all right, I'll go home and get my toothbrush and pyjamas." He said "no, you're going straight there. your wife can bring your toothbrush later."

A heartwarming tale of a relaxed conversation between a patient and his doctor. I like that he had time to take out his diary. I mean we all carry one round with us and do that when the doctor tells you to prepare for hospital. Sounds like he didn’t even have time to dip his quill into the ink pot, let alone unfold his blotting paper. Ah, the long gone days of visiting the doctor.

 

[Justin Passing]

I meant to post this earlier, didn't hit the blue button:

1. Main points​

• In 2017, the UK spent £2,989 per person on healthcare, which was around the median for members of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development: OECD (£2,913 per person).
• However, of the G7 group of large, developed economies, UK healthcare spending per person was the second-lowest, with the highest spenders being France (£3,737), Germany (£4,432) and the United States (£7,736).
• As a percentage of GDP, UK healthcare spending fell from 9.8% in 2013 to 9.6% in 2017, while healthcare spending as a percentage of GDP rose for four of the remaining six G7 countries.
• The UK’s publicly funded NHS-based health system contributes to the UK having one of the highest shares of publicly funded healthcare (79%) in the OECD.
• In 2017, the UK spent the equivalent of £560 per person on health-related long-term care, which was less than most other northern or western European countries, but a similar amount to France (£569) and Canada (£556).

 

[Vinty]

NHS short of 12,000 doctors and 50,000 nurses, and government has no plan to fix this.

A far bigger threat to our well-being than most often issues.

On the news this morning. Probably in papers too.

How come if you have enough cash you can see a doctor almost immediately.

 

[Vinty]

) and the United States (£7,736

Don't the Americans have a private system?

 

[Vinty]

Things with the NHS haven't changed much.

 

[Notch7]

I meant to post this earlier, didn't hit the blue button:

1. Main points​

• In 2017, the UK spent £2,989 per person on healthcare, which was around the median for members of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development: OECD (£2,913 per person).
• However, of the G7 group of large, developed economies, UK healthcare spending per person was the second-lowest, with the highest spenders being France (£3,737), Germany (£4,432) and the United States (£7,736).
• As a percentage of GDP, UK healthcare spending fell from 9.8% in 2013 to 9.6% in 2017, while healthcare spending as a percentage of GDP rose for four of the remaining six G7 countries.
• The UK’s publicly funded NHS-based health system contributes to the UK having one of the highest shares of publicly funded healthcare (79%) in the OECD.
• In 2017, the UK spent the equivalent of £560 per person on health-related long-term care, which was less than most other northern or western European countries, but a similar amount to France (£569) and Canada (£556).

very interesting, I heard Jeremy Hunt on the radio yest saying "Uk now spends similar levels to other European nations"

 

[ajohn]

"Uk now spends similar levels to other European nations"