What would you say if I replied to Eric's comment by stating that NO appliances require RCD 'protection'.
This it seems is from Worcester Bosch boiler, where it states not only is a RCD required but it should be type A. With the comment "where additional protection is required." leaving the installer to find out if additional protection is required.
Personally I think it should say "when using a TT supply" or similar. Through the regulations we have "shall be selected and erected in accordance with the manufacturer's instructions." "shall be selected in accordance with the manufacturer's instruction sheet" "In all cases, the manufacturer's instructions shall be followed." "
134.1.1 Good workmanship by competent persons or persons under their supervision and proper materials shall be used in the erection of the electrical installation. Electrical equipment shall be installed in accordance with the instructions provided by the manufacturer of the equipment."
I seem to remember being told it now says manufacturers instructions should be taken into account? Which makes sense as I have had battery powered items with instructions clearly designed for mains power. So some common sense is required.
I have at work been asked some thing by some one I was working with and have answered in good faith, only to latter visit and realise something lost in the communication and something done which really should not have been done.
In this case easy option seems to be fit a 13 amp socket, likely that is what I would do. However a 13 amp plug is designed to be used in free air, in most cases the ovens own fans mean there is no problem with ventilation.
But I note "before we moved in" not "before we bought the home" so for all we know it is rented accommodation. If that is the case then there will be at some point an EICR, and possibly some other inspection or limitations of what is permitted. In Wales for example it would require in theory at least registering. I personally would not worry about it, but the law says if fixed in a special location and a kitchen is a special location, so you can use an extension lead, but use some cleats to keep flex off work top so it does not get wet, and it needs registering, not that anyone in their right mind would bother.
When I moved in here I swapped the existing built in hob and oven for a stand alone cooker, and the Wylex fuse box was replaced with a consumer unit latter, and the new landlord laws in England seem to want things doing far faster than I as a home owner would do, it took around 6 months before I got my fuse box removed. Previous house I just added RCD protection and never did get around to swapping the fuse boxes for consumer units.
If I was asked to install an oven in that house, it would require a
minor works certificate, so question is can I sign this "I being the person responsible for the Design, Construction, Inspection & Testing of the electrical installation (as indicated by my signature below), particulars of which are described above, having exercised reasonable skill and care when carrying out the Design, Construction, Inspection & Testing, hereby CERTIFY that the said work for which I have been responsible is to the best of my knowledge and belief in accordance with BS 7671:2018, amended to .............(date) except for the departures, if any, detailed as follows."
The problem is
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So I would need to write down why I feel in this case I can do without RCD protection. My own house yes I would do it, and to heck with the certificate, but with some one else's home, where I have no control, I have just read about an EICR done clearly a drive by report, and how the home was sold, and new owners are taking the electrician to court over the report. OK the electrician was a bit silly admitting some of the errors, he shot himself in the foot, but we laugh about jobs worth, but it can be exactly that.
To break rules and laws as an owner occupier one is very unlikely to get caught, and you use some common sense, but if not owner occupier then a very different story. So the question is, when you know an electrician will likely refuse to fit it, should you? Last century I would have fitted it without any problems, but since 2008 I know I should not fit it, I know many will and just leave no paperwork, in my own house I would fit it promising myself I would change the fuse board once I had some time.
Back a few years I would have used a RCD socket, or FCU, but even that does not really comply today, as the BS EN numbers used with sockets are not on the list of permitted devices. Yes agree all gone a bit silly, but I did not write law or regulations.
