citizen's arrest

[billyo]

a guy in norwich catch's a guy diddling him out of £850 , gives him a slap puts sign around his neck march's him to cop shop, only to be arrested himself for unlawful in-prisonment the point is let every thug go on there way or you could get killed or nicked, let the thives and shi#heads rule i an sure the polic are winning never stop to help just pick up the paper next day to see what happen to the poor sod and be glad you did'nt stop to help citzen arrest my ar#e

 

[Jaffa72]

I read about this today and thought it was quite funny
I think the fact that he had his hands tied behind his back after being restrained by another 3 or 4 people had something to do with their arrests

 

[Sylvan Tieger]

Guns, Gun Ownership, & RTC at All-Time Highs, Less "Gun Control," and Violent Crime at 30-Year Low


Guns.

The number of privately owned guns in the U.S. is at an all-time high. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) estimates that there were about 215 million guns in 1999,1 when the number of new guns was averaging about 4.5 million (about 2%) annually.2 A report for the National Academy of Sciences put the 1999 figure at 258 million.3 According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, there were 60.4 million approved (new and used) NICS firearm transactions between 1994 2004.4 The number of NICS checks for firearm purchases or permits increased 3.2% between 2003-2004.

Gun Owners.

The number of gun owners is also at an all-time high. The U.S. population is at an all-time high (294 million), and rises about 1% annually.5 Numerous surveys over the last 40+ years have found that almost half of all households have at least one gun owner.6 Some surveys since the late 1990s have indicated a smaller incidence of gun ownership,7 probably because of some respondents` concerns about "gun control," residually due, perhaps, to the anti-gun policies of the Clinton Administration.

Right-to-Carry.

The number of RTC states is at an all-time high, up from 10 in 1987 to 38 today.8 In 2004, states with RTC laws, compared to other states, had lower violent crime rates on average. Total violent crime was lower by 21%, murder by 28%, robbery by 43%, and aggravated assault by 13%.9

"Less Gun Control."

Violent crime has declined while many "gun control" laws have been eliminated or made less restrictive. Many states have eliminated prohibitory or restrictive carry laws, in favor of Right-to-Carry laws. The federal Brady Act`s waiting period on handgun sales ended in 1998, in favor of the NRA-supported National Instant Check, and some states thereafter eliminated waiting periods, purchase permit requirements, or other laws delaying gun sales. The federal "assault weapon" ban expired in 2004. All states now have hunter protection laws, 46 have range protection laws, 46 prohibit local jurisdictions from imposing gun laws more restrictive than state law, 44 protect the right to arms in their constitutions, and 33 prohibit frivolous lawsuits against the firearm industry.10

Studies by and for Congress, the Congressional Research Service, the Library of Congress, the National Institute of Justice, the National Academy of Sciences, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and even researchers who support "gun control," have found no evidence that "gun control" reduces crime.11

Crime.

The FBI reports that the nation`s total violent crime rate declined every year between 1991 2004.12 In 2004, the violent crime rate fell to a 30-year low, lower than any time since 1974. The murder rate fell to a 39-year low, lower than any time since 1965. The 2004 robbery and aggravated assault rates were lower than any time since 1968 and 1984, respectively. Since 1991, total violent crime has decreased 39%; murder and non-negligent manslaughter, 44%; rape, 24%; robbery, 50%; and aggravated assault, 33%.13 Between 2003-2004, the violent crime rate declined 2.2%.14 Concurrently, the most recent Bureau of Justice Statistics crime victimization survey found that violent crime is lower than anytime since 1973, when the first such survey was conducted.15

 

[Trazor]

Children and Gun Violence
In a single year, 3,012 children and teens were killed by gunfire in the United States, according to the latest national data released in 2002.
That is one child every three hours; eight children every day; and more than 50 children every week.
And every year, at least 4 to 5 times as many kids and teens suffer from non-fatal firearm injuries. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)

America and Gun Violence
American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain,
57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)

You must be very pleased, that the death rate is being reduced..........

 

[^woody^]

The hero doing the parading of the bad guy was not our own Shytalks, was it

Probably never settled his invoice.

 

[Shytalkz]

Lol, I wish it was...is there a link to that story?

 

[hotrod]

Here you go Shy:-

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/3103396/Businessman-facing-charges-for-stunt-to-shame-thief.html

 

[Shytalkz]

Thankee muchly. However, it was Witham, in Essex! Only about 80 miles from Norwich, but close....

 

[Blasphemous]

To be fair this was hardly a citizens arrest was it? I'm not saying I don't agree with what he did though

 

[Softus]

In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States.

Could that be because obesity in the USA makes their children a larger target?

 

[Softus]

the point is let every thug go on there way or you could get killed or nicked

And in this case, the thug was nicked.

 

[esra_ptrap]

If you make a citizens arrest make sure you only use reasonable force and you will be fine.

Turning green and splitting the seams on your clothes will only give the sympathy card to the slag.

(or, if you do decide to batter him, don't get caught).

 

[mattylad]

Giving the culprit a good kicking while arresting them wont do you any favours either.

However, whats reasonable force?

Having watched how some of the coppers use excessive force on the TV cop shows, IMO you would have to go a long way to use excessive force.

Bring back the village stocks & some rotten fruit

 

[Softus]

Uncovering evidence of an earlier fraud, or theft, is not an offence that arrestable by a citizen.

 

[Sylvan Tieger]

Children and Gun Violence
In a single year, 3,012 children and teens were killed by gunfire in the United States, according to the latest national data released in 2002.
That is one child every three hours; eight children every day; and more than 50 children every week.
And every year, at least 4 to 5 times as many kids and teens suffer from non-fatal firearm injuries. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)

America and Gun Violence
American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain,
57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)

You must be very pleased, that the death rate is being
reduced..........

What is not in the report is what age group these "children " are as many of these shooting are gang related and the gangs are just protecting their surf .

Also the Drive by shooters are doing their part to make sure children are home at night as these folks patrol the streets.

Also note that legally armed folks are not seperated from hoodlums shootings.

More people are killed /maimed by drunk drivers in England .

50 children killed a week is nothing when compared to over 300 abortitions performed a day.