Death in the channel…again

[motorbiking]

For the economic illegal immigrants - My only route to living in Beverly Hills would be to rob a bank, doesn't make it legal for me to do so.

 

[transam]

RNLI involved despite the incident being well inside French waters.

Typical French ( scoundrels)

Obviously having another clear out of migrants ? To the UK ?

Either that or there plods brown envelopes are drying up
Or getting thinner ??

 

[IT Minion]

And you only have to look at the nationalities of the illegals to know that they aren’t refugee

Yeah, what's not to like about Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq!?

For anyone who isn't following things in detail the numbers from Albania are down something like 90% this year.

 

[Odds]

There's an article in the guardian about Wilders and reading the comments I was surprised by how many comments that proved popular amongst the readers, were along the line of you ignore the electorate, don't expect them to keep coming back for more.

Hilary Clinton found that out the hard way.
I mean, yes, voters for Trump are a "basket of deplorables"; just don't say it out loud, dear.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Unfortunately we don’t live in that world.

We live on a small over crowded island with apparently crumbling and overstretched public resources that have to cope with 3/4M more people each year.

Net migration was at about 750,000 last year, the highest so far.
How do you arrive at an increase of 3 - 4 million each year without stretching the imagination?

And you only have to look at the nationalities of the illegals to know that they aren’t refugees. They may be able to argue asylum by fleeing other kinds of persecution. But not refugees as per the intent of the convention.

You should offer your services to the Home Office, for asylum applications. You could cut the waiting list in the first week to zero, just by looking at the asylum seekrs.

 

[Roy Bloom]

No comment on the morality of the issue, but to call the trafficked "mariners" is a stretch.


I've got a collection of RAB gear and have walked in the hills, but it don't make me a mountaineer.

When you're on a mountain, you're a mountaineer.

 

[Notch7]

For the economic illegal immigrants - My only route to living Beverly Hills would be to rob a bank, doesn't take it legal for me to do so.

They aren’t illegal immigrants.

People who arrive here without the legal documents and don’t apply for asylum are illegal immigrants, they get arrested and deported

People who arrive here with the legal documents and apply for asylum are not illegal immigrants, they are asylum seekers who have a fully legal status.


And where is your evidence they are economic migrants

 

[Notch7]

We live on a small over crowded island with apparently crumbling and overstretched public resources that have to cope with 3/4M more people each year

We have overstretched public resources because we keep getting Conservative govts which you vote for.

And we have 750,000 net migration because of policies put in place by Conservatives that you vote for

 

[gant]

People who arrive here without the legal documents and don’t apply for asylum are illegal immigrants, they get arrested and deported

So they just say it's a fair cop guv send me back.
They don't entertain the idea of disappearing and working in the blank economy then.

 

[motorbiking]

Net migration was at about 750,000 last year, the highest so far.
How do you arrive at an increase of 3 - 4 million each year without stretching the imagination?



You should offer your services to the Home Office, for asylum applications. You could cut the waiting list in the first week to zero, just by looking at the asylum seekrs.

Did you skip maths at school 3/4M = three quarters of a million. About 750,000. Last time I checked.

If I’d meant three to four million I’d have said 3 - 4M

 

[motorbiking]

They aren’t illegal immigrants.

People who arrive here without the legal documents and don’t apply for asylum are illegal immigrants, they get arrested and deported

People who arrive here with the legal documents and apply for asylum are not illegal immigrants, they are asylum seekers who have a fully legal status.


And where is your evidence they are economic migrants

Anyone (apart from a few exceptions) who arrives via small boat, illegally etc. No longer has a right to claim asylum in the UK. We discussed this last time - it's in the Illegal Migration Act 2023. So I am correctly referring to them as illegal immigrants.

 

[robinbanks]

Anyone (apart from a few exceptions) who arrives via small boat, illegally etc. No longer has a right to claim asylum in the UK.

And you know the sad part, knowing people who work with these people, is that those who risk everything in order to get here generally are far more invested in forging a life for themselves and contributing to the economy

 

[motorbiking]

If they want to come and contribute to the economy - there are many ways to do it:

Work in the UK - GOV.UK

Skilled Worker visa, Graduate visa, other work visas, right to work

www.gov.uk

paying trafficking gangs is not the right way.

 

[motorbiking]

Yeah, what's not to like about Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq!?

For anyone who isn't following things in detail the numbers from Albania are down something like 90% this year.

not quite that simple

Irregular migration to the UK, year ending June 2023

www.gov.uk

 

[IT Minion]

not quite that simple

Irregular migration to the UK, year ending June 2023

www.gov.uk

No, it's not as simple as that.

There was a sharp fall in the numbers of Albanians arriving in small boats – from 10,000 to 860 - though experts said it was unclear what was driving this.

Net migration to UK hit record 745,000 in 2022, revised figures show

Office for National Statistics raises previous figure by 140,000 and gives estimate for year to June of 672,000

www.theguardian.com