Do you have to be CORGI to change a pump?

[koalabear]

Plumber reckons I need new pump in my Worcester combi boiler.

I asked if he's Corgi and he said no, but tells me that's ok if he just does the water, not the gas side of it. And the pump is water so he's all right...

Is he telling me the truth?

Thanks guys.

 

[JohnD]

Is he telling me the truth?

yes

 

[koalabear]

Thank you, that's fine then. Cheers.

 

[D_Hailsham]

Is he telling me the truth?

yes

That all depends on how you interpret the regulations.

3. - (1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.

"gas fittings" means gas pipework, valves (other than emergency controls), regulators and meters, and fittings, apparatus and appliances designed for use by consumers of gas for heating, lighting, cooking or other purposes for which gas can be used.

"gas appliance" means an appliance designed for use by a consumer of gas for heating, lighting, cooking or other purposes for which gas can be used ...

If a person does work on a gas fitting for money, he has to be CORGI registered. But, as the definitions above show, a gas appliance is a gas fitting. So it could easily be argued that the complete boiler is an "appliance" and therefore comes under the definition of a gas fitting and will need a CORGI person.

The regulations make no distinction between the gas side and the water side of the boiler; it is all part of the gas "appliance" and consequently a "gas fitting".

 

[koalabear]

Now I'm confused. Use him or ring him quick before he buys the pump?

 

[gas4you]

As far as I am aware, anyone working on any gas appliance must ensure that the appliance is working correctly and safely after repairing it.

If he is not an RGI how can he do this

 

[koalabear]

No problem, I've rung him and said no thanks 'cos we want a Corgi chap.

Why do I feel guilty?!

i should have checked with him first I guess

Thank you all for prompt advice, you're stars.

 

[GPlumb]

So do you need an electrician to wire in a 2 wire room stat?

Bullshit, As long as your not touching the gas "side" then its fine.

A combi boiler is an appliance that consumes gas, its is not a gas fitting.

 

[Deleted member 105431]

A combi boiler is an appliance that consumes gas, its is not a gas fitting.

that is debatable.

 

[GPlumb]

A combi boiler is an appliance that consumes gas, its is not a gas fitting.

that is debatable.

Debate then its a forum!

 

[corgiman]

IMHO it should be a job for an rgi cos the pump is within the boiler, but I dont think the regs would back me up on that.

 

[ajstoneservices]

Partcenter (big deal in gas installer) said they wouldn't sell boiler spares etc to unregistered engineers, I find myself in a Partscenter shortly after where someone was buying a board I asked the young man behind the counter about the claim in "Gas installer" he replied, Its only applies to gas critical parts thermocouple, multifunction valve

 

[BigBurner]

IMHO it should be a job for an rgi cos the pump is within the boiler, but I dont think the regs would back me up on that.

You would say that wouldn't you.

 

[BigBurner]

Is he telling me the truth?

yes

That all depends on how you interpret the regulations.

3. - (1) No person shall carry out any work in relation to a gas fitting or gas storage vessel unless he is competent to do so.

"gas fittings" means gas pipework, valves (other than emergency controls), regulators and meters, and fittings, apparatus and appliances designed for use by consumers of gas for heating, lighting, cooking or other purposes for which gas can be used.

"gas appliance" means an appliance designed for use by a consumer of gas for heating, lighting, cooking or other purposes for which gas can be used ...

If a person does work on a gas fitting for money, he has to be CORGI registered. But, as the definitions above show, a gas appliance is a gas fitting. So it could easily be argued that the complete boiler is an "appliance" and therefore comes under the definition of a gas fitting and will need a CORGI person.

The regulations make no distinction between the gas side and the water side of the boiler; it is all part of the gas "appliance" and consequently a "gas fitting".

Where is the link from?

 

[corgiman]

IMHO it should be a job for an rgi cos the pump is within the boiler, but I dont think the regs would back me up on that.

You would say that wouldn't you.

why would i say that?

I think anyone who works on a system that is heated by a gas appliance should be qualified to recognise any defects that that gas appliance may have AND be able to ensure that that gas appliance is working correctly and safely

Unfortunatley I dont right the rules but seeing as we are having a debate I thought I would chuck my tuppence worth in.

and why do I get the feeling that have typed your comment with a sneer?