Does Argentina have a legitimate claim to the Falkland Islands

[Scoop-20]

Ireland was neutral during the war.
It's that neutrality that meant they could provide assistance to either side.
Many other countries also declared neutrality.
In some cases it was because they did not want to engage in war. In other cases it was a smokescreen to hide secret preferences. In still other cases it was because they simply did not have the resources to engage in war.
Ireland probably refrained from taking sides for all three reasons. (They had recently been fighting a war with UK because UK wanted to rule Ireland)

Well said

 

[fillyboy]

I remember being told never under estimate a Benny.

I read that the commanding officers took exception to the soldiers referring to locals as 'Bennys', so they were given a good talking to and thereafter called them 'not Bennys'.

 

[ericmark]

I read that the commanding officers took exception to the soldiers referring to locals as 'Bennys', so they were given a good talking to and thereafter called them 'not Bennys'.

Stills wasn't it, as still benny's?

 

[fillyboy]

Stills wasn't it, as still benny's?

Can't remember for sure, it was a long time ago but that sounds more apt. Am I right in saying The Sun newspaper sold T shirts with the logo 'Give an Argy some bargy', I can't find any reference to them but I'd pay good money for one.

 

[ericmark]

During the conflict I was working in Algeria and BBC world services was a bit hit and miss so I was unable to follow all the reports, I heard the stories after I got to the Falklands when some local got drunk, but while sober they did not say so much.

Wonder who the one voter was who voted to join Argentina, just one person on whole Island voted that way.

 

[Notch7]

Did any other country supply Argentina with state of the art guided missile destroyers a few years prior to the conflict? answers on a postcard

Which country was in negotiations to sell arms to Argentina just before the Falklands war....

.....Britain.

Iraq?

 

[fillyboy]

Which country was in negotiations to sell arms to Argentina just before the Falklands war....

.....Britain.

Iraq?

All countries have sold arms to countries where it might not be wise, it's called trade. Nobody bears a grudge that the French sold the Exocet missiles to Argentina, but the fact that they supplied a team of engineers to Argentina to troubleshoot problems during the conflict with the UK is beneath contempt and something only the filthy French scumbags are capable of.

How France helped both sides in the Falklands War - BBC News

Britain's Defence Secretary at the time, Sir John Nott, told me that although he knew that a French technical team was in Argentina then, its work was not thought to be of any great importance. British efforts, he insists, were mainly focused on stopping the Argentinians getting hold of any more Exocets.

Had he, I enquired, asked Paris to withdraw the team? That, he could not remember. Overall, he added, the French did give Britain substantial help during the conflict.

But, does he, nonetheless, now feel a little let down by a nation that he had previously described as Britain's greatest ally? This was his response:

"We asked Mitterrand not to give assistance to the Argentinians. If you're asking me: 'Are the French duplicitous people?' the answer is: 'Of course they are, and they always have been.'"

 

[crystal ball]

There was a big irony regarding HMS Sheffield & ARA Hercules, during the construction of Sheffield the aft end was destroyed by an explosion ( two men died), the aft end of Hercules was completed in the assembly shed and was transplanted onto Sheffield, also anecdotal evidence has indicated Hercules was trapped in port by UK submarines, all built in the same shipyard

 

[crystal ball]

Needless to say the UK supplied technical support for the two destroyers sold, not saying it was during the war but in the run up

 

[fillyboy]

not saying it was during the war

Nuff said. Hardly worth mentioning.

 

[crystal ball]

Nuff said. Hardly worth mentioning.

Not really, two state of the art destroyers with full technical back up, its not like buying a second hand Mondeo, was it ever mentioned during the conflict?

 

[fillyboy]

Not really, two state of the art destroyers with full technical back up, its not like buying a second hand Mondeo, was it ever mentioned during the conflict?

You're obfuscating. Did we supply full technical back up during the conflict? did we have engineers in Argentina during the war?

To be clear and for the avoidance of doubt, the French did surreptitiously provide assistance to the Argies against us during the conflict. It's what they do, they're sneaky little feckers to say the least, always have been, always will be.

 

[crystal ball]

The UK sold and supported weapons to a future enemy, always have and always will

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

You're obfuscating. Did we supply full technical back up during the conflict? did we have engineers in Argentina during the war?

To be clear and for the avoidance of doubt, the French did surreptitiously provide assistance to the Argies against us during the conflict. It's what they do, they're sneaky little feckers to say the least, always have been, always will be.

The French engineers were in France at the start of the conflict. You think the Argentinians would have allowed them to leave without them honouring their contract?
The French provided important details to UK to combat the exocet missiles, including details of special electronic countermeasures.
France provided aircraft to UK for training against.
France provided port facilities in Africa for UK use.
France provided intelligence information.

But don't let this get in the way of your anti-French prejudice.

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[Notch7]

fact that they supplied a team of engineers to Argentina to troubleshoot problems during the conflict with the UK is beneath contempt and something only the filthy French scumbags are capable of

Fillyboy misses this:

FRANCE was Britain's greatest ally during the Falklands war, providing secret information to enable MI6 agents to sabotage Exocet missiles which were desperately sought by Argentina

And this:
In these circumstances the Foreign and Commonwealth Office promptly asked the French Government for an explanation, and the French Minister of Defence immediately ordered an urgent investigation. The outcome of this investigation was announced in a joint statement by the French Ministers of Defence and Foreign Affairs on 27 July. The findings were that the Dassault technicians had properly carried out the French Government's specific instructions not to help the Argentines in the event of an armed conflict between Britain and Argentina. These instructions were issued before hostilities began and are standard French procedure when French technicians are working overseas during periods of tension. As you say in your letter, the Sunday Times article of 1 August complains that the French statement is incomplete. It is fair to say that the French statement does not contain a detailed point by point rebuttal of the 25 July article. But this is not unusual and the Sunday Times must know as much. What the statement does do is to say quite unequivocally that an investigation has shown the newspaper's allegations to be unfounded. We have no reason to question what was said by the two French Ministers: there is no evidence available to us to support a contrary view

https://api.parliament.uk/historic-.../nov/08/falklands-campaign-french-technicians