EV are they worth it?

[StephenStephen]

On the subject of fires in different kinds of vehicles, I found this: https://theconversation.com/electri...l-vehicles-is-at-least-20-times-higher-213468
Frustratingly I couldn't find much information about "The Conversation"
Though I did find this:
"The Conversation unlocks the latest insights and research findings from academia in order to bring real expertise to bear on the biggest issues of our time. As a charity, the support of our readers helps us counter misinformation, misunderstanding and error by championing expert voices."

 

[DiyNutJob]

There is no solution to burning electric cars apart from letting them burn. ICE cars don't suffer the same. The fire brigade can put out an ICE car fire in a jiffy.

 

[johnny2007]

There is no solution to burning electric cars apart from letting them burn. ICE cars don't suffer the same. The fire brigade can put out an ICE car fire in a jiffy.

That's the reason why insurance companies are writing off EV for impacts that on an ICE vehicle could be easily fixed.
They don't want to take any chances.
And scrapping brand new cars (and 2 tons worth of batteries) is great for the environment...

 

[JohnD]

And scrapping brand new cars (and 2 tons worth of batteries) is great for the environment...

If only the materials in the battery could be recycled....

 

[Avocet]

There is no solution to burning electric cars apart from letting them burn. ICE cars don't suffer the same. The fire brigade can put out an ICE car fire in a jiffy.

Well they didn't put this ICE fire out in a jiffy, did they?

Liverpool car park fire: Hundreds of burnt-out vehicles removed

More than 1,000 vehicles were destroyed when the Liverpool car park was engulfed in flames.

www.bbc.co.uk

Meanwhile in Sweden...

New revolutionary method tested extinguishes lithium-Ion EV fires in ten minutes with minimal water use

The water consumption was calculated to be around 750 liters / 200 gallons in total, with a combined use of the Cobra cutting extinguisher and traditional fire extinguishing with water.

www.ctif.org

 

[robinbanks]

There is no solution to ..

Using extremes of language seldom results in true statements

Also worth noting that the problem of putting out burning ICE vehicles has had about a hundred years of technological development, so you're not really comparing apples

 

[DiyNutJob]

Well they didn't put this ICE fire out in a jiffy, did they?

The fire could have been started by an EV. There's not a nearby river they could throw it into.

 

[DiyNutJob]

Also worth noting that the problem of putting out burning ICE vehicles has had about a hundred years of technological development, so you're not really comparing apples

You are simply saying ICE cars are better when it comes to fires. The point is they should not force unsafe cars onto people, either through enticement or coercion.

 

[StephenStephen]

You are simply saying ICE cars are better when it comes to fires. The point is they should not force unsafe cars onto people, either through enticement or coercion.

Maybe actually read this information to learn something about which cars are more unsafe?

Electric vehicle fires are very rare. The risk for petrol and diesel vehicles is at least 20 times higher

Reports of electric vehicle fires might lead some people to fear the growing numbers of these vehicles will increase fire risk. In fact, replacing petrol and diesel vehicles is likely to reduce it.

theconversation.com

 

[DiyNutJob]

Maybe actually read this information to learn something about which cars are more unsafe?

Electric vehicle fires are very rare. The risk for petrol and diesel vehicles is at least 20 times higher

Reports of electric vehicle fires might lead some people to fear the growing numbers of these vehicles will increase fire risk. In fact, replacing petrol and diesel vehicles is likely to reduce it.

theconversation.com

I only go by youtube mobile phone fires.

 

[StephenStephen]

I only go by youtube mobile phone fires.

Very wise!

 

[norseman]

Talking to a friend today who has recently acquired a new EV .. apparently it's a company car & when he ran through all the government incentives/subsidies applicable in such circumstances you can see why the majority of new EV's are not being bought by private individuals, a small detail omitted in the official Gov. UK statistics highlighting new car registration figures.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I only go by youtube mobile phone fires.

I've seen a few cars on fire, or that have been on fire.

Never seen (or know of any in my locality) an electric car fire.

Need to keep the risk and actuality in perspective

You do realise how youtube works? Look at 1 electric car fire and it will keep finding others for you. Cognitive bias in action

 

[Avocet]

The fire could have been started by an EV. There's not a nearby river they could throw it into.

You, er... didn't read the article then...?


"...People living in nearby apartments were also forced to leave as 21 fire crews tackled the blaze which began when a Land Rover burst into flames."

 

[Avocet]

You are simply saying ICE cars are better when it comes to fires. The point is they should not force unsafe cars onto people, either through enticement or coercion.

Well that's good then. because they're not!