Filth

[johnny2007]

0hz

How do shoplifters end up in front of the magistrates then?

When they offend everyday for months and months, disregard the ban they get from shopping centre and towns, then become violent.
That's when they end up in front of magistrates.
In the mean time they've made everyone's life a misery and will start again as soon as they're bailed.

 

[johnny2007]

0hz

How do shoplifters end up in front of the magistrates then?

When they offend everyday for months and months, disregard the ban they get from shopping centre and towns, then become violent.
That's when they end up in front of magistrates.
In the mean time they've made everyone's life a misery and will start again as soon as they're bailed.

 

[JP_]

How do shoplifters end up in front of the magistrates then?

OK, I guess in some quiet backwaters the police arrest them. All shops around where I live have been told that police are unlikely to have time to respond to shoplifting, it's not an emergency. And shop staff have been told by some owners (small supermarkets) not to do anything if they see shoplifting, other than report internally. Too much risk for too little return.

Saying that, there might be a value limit that was mentioned at a recent meeting with the neighbourhood police team, but I cannot remember what that was. More than most people nick from a local coop though. Most people are stealing food, saves them going to the food bank - in fact, one person at the coop mentioned that people often steal from the foodbank collection basket.

 

[JP_]

Its not about Tories not caring, its about spending to our means.

Lol, that is funny. So, tories cut corporation tax, say there's no money for public services, make more money on private investments, and you're happy with that, because they are spending to our means?

 

[crystal ball]

OK, I guess in some quiet backwaters the police arrest them. All shops around where I live have been told that police are unlikely to have time to respond to shoplifting, it's not an emergency. And shop staff have been told by some owners (small supermarkets) not to do anything if they see shoplifting, other than report internally. Too much risk for too little return.

Saying that, there might be a value limit that was mentioned at a recent meeting with the neighbourhood police team, but I cannot remember what that was. More than most people nick from a local coop though. Most people are stealing food, saves them going to the food bank - in fact, one person at the coop mentioned that people often steal from the foodbank collection basket.

I see regular reports in the local rag about shoplifters, mainly the same ones over and over

 

[Lower]

Lol, that is funny. So, tories cut corporation tax, say there's no money for public services, make more money on private investments, and you're happy with that, because they are spending to our means?

They cut corporation tax to try and stimulate the economy. But that is the fundamental difference between the Tory and Labour views. Torys believe that lower tax rates stimulate the economy and ultimately the overall tax tax rises. Labour believe in killing the golden goose.

 

[crystal ball]

They cut corporation tax to try and stimulate the economy. But that is the fundamental difference between the Tory and Labour views. Torys believe that lower tax rates stimulate the economy and ultimately the overall tax tax rises. Labour believe in killing the golden goose.

Corporation tax fell under Brown, from a main rate of 33% to 28%, and from 24% to 19% for small businesses. In 1999, he introduced a lower tax band of 10%.

 

[Lower]

Corporation tax fell under Brown, from a main rate of 33% to 28%, and from 24% to 19% for small businesses. In 1999, he introduced a lower tax band of 10%.

Thank you for the correction.

The centrist labour party of Blair and Brown had a better understanding of stimulating the economy through lowering taxes.

The current labour party stance under Corbyn is to kill the golden goose.

 

[JP_]

The centrist labour party of Blair and Brown had a better understanding of stimulating the economy through lowering taxes.

Is this the same party that tory voters blame for killing the economy?

 

[crystal ball]

Is this the same party that tory voters blame for killing the economy?

I think it is, after all they were in power when the world economy imploded, so it must be their fault

 

[JP_]

Sometimes it seems like the critics might just be making things up as they go along.

 

[Lower]

Is this the same party that tory voters blame for killing the economy?

They still overspent. They were just a lot less bad than the current extreme Corbynista.

I didn't like the Blair and Brown years but i don't remember ever being scared for the future in the same way i'm scared of the consequences for the country of Corbyn getting power.

 

[Bodd]

That really makes no sense - a police officer would not let somebody bite their thumb, it could only happen if their hand was already on their face for some reason.

I had a fight once. He bit my wrist. I don't remember putting my wrist in his mouth.

 

[Notch7]

They cut corporation tax to try and stimulate the economy. But that is the fundamental difference between the Tory and Labour views. Torys believe that lower tax rates stimulate the economy and ultimately the overall tax tax rises. Labour believe in killing the golden goose.

Cutting corporation tax does stimulate the economy slightly. The growth does not offset the loss of tax revenue.

Have a look at America as an example:

Trump tax cuts did little to boost economic growth in 2018, study says
indicated that not only did the rollbacks in business and personal rates have little macro impact, but they also delivered the most benefits to corporations and the rich, with little boost to wages

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/29/tru...boost-economic-growth-in-2018-study-says.html

 

[JP_]

They still overspent.

We've done this before ...

At the start of the great recession in 2007, public sector debt had fallen from 40.4% of GDP to 36.4% of GDP. This was despite increased real government spending. After the start of the crisis, public sector debt almost doubled in the space of three years.

public sector debt as % of GDP:

• 1997/98 – 40.4% of GDP
• 2007/08 – 36.4% of GDP
• 2010/11 – 60.0% of GDP.
• May 2019 – 82.9% of GDP

https://www.economicshelp.org/blog/7568/debt/government-debt-under-labour-1997-2010/

So, Labour overspent and reduced public sector debt at the same time. They really were pretty good, weren't they? Corbyn is one man, maybe give the party a chance?