OK, I take back what I said before. The flue ducts within the appliances should have been checked but she might have recorded flue not visible in reference to the main SE/U duct. I would have taken that part of the form to refer to flue duct from appliance to terminal (within SE/U duct). Also sounds like she might have gas rated the water heater, so the 29.95kW figure could be genuine.
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Right, (thanks for your time with this, BTW!) - so back to my original question, as things like SE/U and 29.95Kw mean nothing to me, is there anything on that test sheet that should concern me, or does it now appear to be in order?
I hope they spent at least an hour checking out the gas since inspecting warm air units is an involved process. That certificate is a very old format so I suspect they don't do very many gas safety records or they have a huge stockpile of forms.
I came across a Main Medway (or Mersey -can't remember) installed on a SE duct a few years ago. Baxi told me the water heater had not been approved for a SE duct, therfore it was disconnected. The landlord also enquired and in the end a combi was fitted to the outside wall. Baxi did however tell me their older water heaters were designed for a SE or U duct.
In these circumstances I always contact the freeholder to enquire when the SE (for South Eastern) or U duct flue was last inspected. On the form I also write that its the landlords responsibilty for this flue inspection.
You could have a look around the base of the block of flats. If you come across a large grill (often with a warning notice) it will be the air intake for a SE duct type flue. Since there is often no roof access (locked) flue terminals can't be inspected at the time.
I once came across a drying cabinet (a gas burner in the base of a cupboard used for drying clothing) installed on a SE duct. The door interlocks had failed and the 2 flue doors were open with the cabinet door open. Obviously I disconnected it. Check you don't have this setup as they are still around today.
I came across a Main Medway (or Mersey -can't remember) installed on a SE duct a few years ago. Baxi told me the water heater had not been approved for a SE duct, therfore it was disconnected. The landlord also enquired and in the end a combi was fitted to the outside wall. Baxi did however tell me their older water heaters were designed for a SE or U duct.
In these circumstances I always contact the freeholder to enquire when the SE (for South Eastern) or U duct flue was last inspected. On the form I also write that its the landlords responsibilty for this flue inspection.
You could have a look around the base of the block of flats. If you come across a large grill (often with a warning notice) it will be the air intake for a SE duct type flue. Since there is often no roof access (locked) flue terminals can't be inspected at the time.
I once came across a drying cabinet (a gas burner in the base of a cupboard used for drying clothing) installed on a SE duct. The door interlocks had failed and the 2 flue doors were open with the cabinet door open. Obviously I disconnected it. Check you don't have this setup as they are still around today.
I do hope that ninebob is not questioning this inspection just because it was done by a female?
There are quite a few females who enter the gas industry but not many stay unless they go into teaching.
You have a warm air heating unit. This needs a special qualification which few people bother to get as we more often remove them the maintain them.
The only concern I might have is that she may not have the module for that. You could check the corgi number on the corgi-gas website and see if they/she are listed for warm air !!!
Tony
There are quite a few females who enter the gas industry but not many stay unless they go into teaching.
You have a warm air heating unit. This needs a special qualification which few people bother to get as we more often remove them the maintain them.
The only concern I might have is that she may not have the module for that. You could check the corgi number on the corgi-gas website and see if they/she are listed for warm air !!!
Tony
Hmm. About 25 minutes total, Shaun reckons.Gasguru said:
That sounds better though! Thanks for all your input.chrishutt said:
No, not at all. I wasn't questioning the report at all to start with, just asking for an expert opinion because it was done while I was out and my partner didn't take much notice, and the info on the sheet meant nothing useful to me. I only mentioned that it was a female because the replies all referred to "he"!Agile said:
gasguru wrote:
So you may like to contact Baxi (the manufacturer of Main water heaters) to enquire whether your water heater is in fact safe installed on a SE or U duct. At the time I checked they were adamant it was not safe and was never approved. However you may be given differing advice as technical departments often give misleading and inaccurate advice. The exact model GC no is quoted on the gas safety form.
So you may like to contact Baxi (the manufacturer of Main water heaters) to enquire whether your water heater is in fact safe installed on a SE or U duct. At the time I checked they were adamant it was not safe and was never approved. However you may be given differing advice as technical departments often give misleading and inaccurate advice. The exact model GC no is quoted on the gas safety form.
All explained here http://www.truecrete.com/shared2.htm
And a typical flue terminal shown here http://www.turbo-alert.net/Files/Fluescan.pdf
The SE duct takes air from a duct at ground level. This was a further development of the U duct by South Eastern gas (hence SE). The U duct takes air from the roof via a "downleg".
Since they are part of the fabric of the building the freeholder (often the local authority) have a legal duty to inspect them on a regular basis.
They work on the principle that hot combustion products flow up the center of the flueway whilst combustion air is available at the perimeter of the duct. Hence all appliance's approved for SE or U ducts have specially designed flue arrangements ie the flues are not standard.
And a typical flue terminal shown here http://www.turbo-alert.net/Files/Fluescan.pdf
The SE duct takes air from a duct at ground level. This was a further development of the U duct by South Eastern gas (hence SE). The U duct takes air from the roof via a "downleg".
Since they are part of the fabric of the building the freeholder (often the local authority) have a legal duty to inspect them on a regular basis.
They work on the principle that hot combustion products flow up the center of the flueway whilst combustion air is available at the perimeter of the duct. Hence all appliance's approved for SE or U ducts have specially designed flue arrangements ie the flues are not standard.
To add to Gasguru's very interesting post, the question here is "to what extent should a Gas Safety Check (GSC) carried out on an individual flat be concerned with the condition of the SE/U duct?". I would think that it is unreasonable to expect the GSC to look beyond the individual appliance balanced flues. The individual terminals within the SE/U duct may only be partly viewable with the appliance cover removed, looking down the balanced flue air duct.
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why have you got (what appears to be) the yellow copy?
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