Government Rwanda plan ...

[carmanmemoranda]

What an utter **** show. So nothing has changed. This new bill will make jack sh't difference. Said person arrives on boat will say, well that law is fine but im going to court, strasbourg or whatever and contest/appeal this law forever and a day.

Boats keep coming nothing changes. They will take that risk.

Now our immigration minister resigns albeit im sure with the promise of a place in New Tory. Braverman was right today, the Tories will be wiped out come the next GE.

It keeps being said, it is the processing system that is the problem.

Don't blame anybody but those that are responsible for it.

All they are doing is shovelling horse manure, from 1 pile to another

 

[transam]

It’s a good policy as a deterrent

That other countries in Europe are looking at

 

[carmanmemoranda]

It’s a good policy as a deterrent

That other countries in Europe are looking at

have you read the details (drawbacks) ?

 

[transam]

Rwanda like all African countries are bastions of democracy
Respect of human rights
Non corrupt
Fair play
Look after there people
They all are share the same capital un officially in “Geneva”

 

[transam]

Granted Rwanda had a slight issue a few years back

A few people died in some tribal caper

But it’s all sorted now

Safe country now

 

[Notch7]

As can be witnessed, people's across europe are turning to right wing parties because this of kind rhetoric is no longer being bought as they see what it means at ground level.

So shortage of workers in the NHS and care sector is “rhetoric”

you are correct though, people can see what it is like at ground level: massive NHS waiting lists, pubs and restaurants can’t get staff, care homes can’t get enough workers to look after elderly British.

 

[ellal]

So shortage of workers in the NHS and care sector is “rhetoric”

you are correct though, people can see what it is like at ground level: massive NHS waiting lists, pubs and restaurants can’t get staff, care homes can’t get enough workers to look after elderly British.

But that's what those who voted brexit wanted...

You can of course remind us how you voted in the 2016 referendum?

 

[transam]

So shortage of workers in the NHS and care sector is “rhetoric”

you are correct though, people can see what it is like at ground level: massive NHS waiting lists, pubs and restaurants can’t get staff, care homes can’t get enough workers to look after elderly British.

Lousy pay and conditions ??

Costs are going through the roof they were on about this on the radio last week

One council is having to fork out 60 grand per week ( yes per week) for the care of a special needs child

 

[denso13]

You can of course remind us how you voted in the 2016 referendum?

Didn't you say you were leaving this forum?

 

[gant]

I said people across Europe notchy. Brexit came about because labour and the Tories carried on the trajectory that the globalists have put them on, now the scales have fallen from the eyes of those in Europe who are having their plonker pulled.
Gdp your having a laugh what does that mean to the working man when he feels the effect it has on his pay packet reduced by ponzi scheme mass immigration.

 

[denso13]

Brexit came about because labour and the Tories carried on the trajectory that the globalists have put them on

Tinfoil hatter gibberish.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Tinfoil hatter gibberish.

gantish

 

[Notch7]

Why did you not highlight and gdp is everything. No need to explain.
Ask the working man what he thinks about gdp.

Ask the working man what he thinks about……it is mostly cost of living, health, public services.

 

[Notch7]

Lousy pay and conditions ??

Costs are going through the roof they were on about this on the radio last week

One council is having to fork out 60 grand per week ( yes per week) for the care of a special needs child

Come on Transam, plumbers charges have shot up, I bet you are charging £500 a day or more

You probably earn more in a week than a nurse earns in a month

 

[festive]

This Fu'd up Rwanda plan its a bit like Brexit etc it's causing such a distraction on what should be a simple issue. Is this just the result of today litigeous society where Law has become so open to interpretation, the same sh't happens time and time over like a tug of war where noone ever wins ever. Anti and pro government powers fight behind the scenes to just cause chaos and make millions from legal challenges. A bit like the USA and their gun laws, too much money behind it to stop it now.

And my other point is, they're missing the point completely. Stopping the boats is actually about stopping the boats not what do possibly do with them once they arrive, that's stage2 in the preventative plan.

Stage 1 Stop the boats. Create a ruling/law that ensures safe passage of all non UK residents back to the country of origin ie France. We know this is the french or EU coast, we know they couldn't possibly travel further with a tank full of petrol so again lets stop the lawyers making something here that isn't no they never possibly traveled direct from far remote shores. Along with this for now we mobilise the Navy to start patrolling our waters to tow back and arrest boats/passengers and hand straight back to French authorities. Im sure we can contract a private contractor to assist the Navy with this and which wouldn't cost the millions a day we pay hosting them here.

Not ever will stop the boats be stopping them by a Rwanda plane threat. They aren't stupid they will come here and dissapear and or use legal aid to deter for years.

I think it's good we've now got beyond the fact any of this isn't about racism ffs. However im sure that anti gov loonies will come up with some other reason why we shouldn't be doing this.