Is it legal

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  1. carlsbergy

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    Hi,

    I rent out a house. The dishwasher needs replacing. It is has a fused switch above the worktop and the cable from the dishwasher through a plate behind the dishwasher on the wall

    Can I legally wire up the new dishwasher, i.e cut the plug off and wire up into the plate? or do I have to get an electrician

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    You can do it, no problems..
     
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    Great, thanks
     
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    Sometime last year we had to replace our washing machine which was located upstairs in the bathroom.

    When the guy from John Lewis came to deliver it and saw the switched connection unit he said if I cut of the plug it would invalidate the warranty...

    No idea if that's the case but worth checking out..

    I suppose you are making a modification to the factory spec..
     
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    Likely because he didn't want - or know how - to do it.

    It may be used as an attempt not to honour the warranty.
     
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    IMO its more the fact if the machine is faulty and needs replacement the store will refuse to replace item if the plug has been cut off.
    The fault could then be down to incorrect wiring.
     
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    You could always disconnect the flex and plug from the appliance and keep it safe, then it can be replaced undamaged, just in case a warranty issue rears it's head at a later date. Then just buy some suitable flex and modify using that.
     
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    Why do people wire washing machines to spur units? Last time I came across this I just replaced the spur unit with a 13A socket.
     
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    Two reasons:
    1. Fuse discrimination. It is a basic principle of electrical design not to have two fuses of the same value in the same circuit chain. The largest fuse is always nearer the supply and sized so that the smaller one will blow before the larger.
    2. Access to the plug. An appliance full of water is hard to move if the fuse in the plug blows and it is behind the appliance.

    Also a flex connection plate is not as deep as a plug and socket. This is needed in many situations so that the machine does not stand out from the base unit. I will ALWAYS use one for an integrated built in appliance.
     
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    1. There is only 1 13A fuse after the consumer unit in either case, either in the plug or in the fused spur unit.
    2. But the fused spur unit is often behind the appliance as well! Anyway if the fuse has blown there is a fault and most likely the replacement will blow as well, so an appliance full of water remains.
    3. I concede on the thickness issue, but even so a plug and socket well placed (perhaps in an adjacent cupboard) is no issue.
     
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    4, If it is in a bathroom where a normal socket outlet is not allowed.
     
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    Don't the latest regs allow for a 3 pin socket in the bathroom if the circuit is RCD protected?
     
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    Only if more than 3m. horizontally from zone 1.
     
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