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As I've said, I believe that aim to be one of the main barriers to peace.
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That would see Dublin bombing Belfast.
Hamas was formed in the 1980's.Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood who formed in the 1920's.
"The terrorist organization Hamas is a “wing of the Muslim Brotherhood,” according to the Hamas Charter. The Charter calls for the murder of Jews, the “obliteration” of Israel and its replacement with an Islamist theocracy."
"The Brotherhood assassinated Anwar Sadat in 1981 for making peace with Israel. It also assassinated Egypt’s prime minister in 1948 and attempted to assassinate President Nasser in 1954."
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I think you're trolling now.
The explanation of the events is very simple.. although the zionist narrative pitches it as complicated, it isn't really.
~4000 years ago
Moses freed a group of Hebrews out of oppression into a holy land that God had promised them (this history questionable because based on a religious narrative, but agreed by most)
~2000 years ago
Jesus started a new religion in the same land. By this time many of the ancestors of the original people had migrated, most had stayed. Many converted to Christianity
~1500 years ago
Mohammed started a new religion in the area. By this time many of the ancestors of the original people had converted to X-ianity or migrated. Still the inhabitants are mainly descendants of the Hebrews from Moses' era. Many Christians and Jews converted to Islam.
1945
The Jews in Europe which are a very much watered down version of the the Moses era are annihilated by a European country.
In Palestine the inhabitants predominantly follow Islam, then Christianity, then Judaism. All of these people are the closest descendants to the Hebrews of Moses (and most are muslim)
1945 onwards
Europeans decide to wage war on Palestine and take their land and move the European Jews to Palestine (these European Jews look more European than middle eastern). Ironically the war wipes out a lot of the closest descendants from Moses original tribe. Europe wins this war and colonizes the land
1945 onwards
The Palestininas (aka Hebrews) resist the occupation, and are pushed further and further out. The Palestinians resort to more desperate measures (including terrorism). The western narrative becomes 'why on earth are they fighting us?? what savages'. Israel has become a de-facto European colony; ginger haired, blue eyed folk with dual nationalities and dual homes. Many with Scottish, American, Australian, Russian accents.
By the way similar things happened to other nations mostly perpetrated by the superpowers of the time.
The explanation of the events is very simple.. although the zionist narrative pitches it as complicated, it isn't really.
~4000 years ago
Moses freed a group of Hebrews out of oppression into a holy land that God had promised them (this history questionable because based on a religious narrative, but agreed by most)
~2000 years ago
Jesus started a new religion in the same land. By this time many of the ancestors of the original people had migrated, most had stayed. Many converted to Christianity
~1500 years ago
Mohammed started a new religion in the area. By this time many of the ancestors of the original people had converted to X-ianity or migrated. Still the inhabitants are mainly descendants of the Hebrews from Moses' era. Many Christians and Jews converted to Islam.
1945
The Jews in Europe which are a very much watered down version of the the Moses era are annihilated by a European country.
In Palestine the inhabitants predominantly follow Islam, then Christianity, then Judaism. All of these people are the closest descendants to the Hebrews of Moses (and most are muslim)
1945 onwards
Europeans decide to wage war on Palestine and take their land and move the European Jews to Palestine (these European Jews look more European than middle eastern). Ironically the war wipes out a lot of the closest descendants from Moses original tribe. Europe wins this war and colonizes the land
1945 onwards
The Palestininas (aka Hebrews) resist the occupation, and are pushed further and further out. The Palestinians resort to more desperate measures (including terrorism). The western narrative becomes 'why on earth are they fighting us?? what savages'. Israel has become a de-facto European colony; ginger haired, blue eyed folk with dual nationalities and dual homes. Many with Scottish, American, Australian, Russian accents.
By the way similar things happened to other nations mostly perpetrated by the superpowers of the time.
Hamas is only designated as terrorist by Israel, US and UK, and handful of other countries. The UN do not designate Hamas as a terrorist organisation. Also Hamas is not just a military wing. In fact, Hamas is not the name of the military wing. Like IRA and Sinn Fein, there are political (and social, welfare, etc) parts of Hamas.
Designating an oganistion as a terorist group is purely a political ploy to justify the conduct against that organisation, and to sway public opinion in support of the one side's argument.
That is evident from the useage of the term throughout world history.
I criticise Israel for its consistent and continual treatment of Palestinians, killing them, imprisoning them without trial, using them as cheap labour, turfing them out of their homes, making them refugees, refusing them freedom of association, discriminating agsinst Palestinians, failing to prosecute its own citizens for killing and mistreating Palestinians, and generally treating them as persona non grata.
Can Notch explain why he keeps asking the same question over and over again?
Can Notch explian why he tries makes a joke aboutr racism, with an overtly racist comment?
Can Notch explain why he defends a racist?
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We are where we are and need to remove the blockages to peace. Starting with the big ones.
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I know.
Read this form the guardian today:
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An Israeli tank commander who was hailed as a hero for his actions during Hamas’s attack on Be’eri kibbutz, the scene of one of the worst massacres on 7 October, has been killed while commanding his tank battalion in northern Gaza.
Lt Col Salman Habaka, 33, a member of Israel’s Druze minority, had rushed to Be’eri with his troops when news of the Hamas attack broke on the morning of 7 October, bringing two tanks to the kibbutz, which engaged members of the militant Islamist group in houses where they were hiding.
He is the most senior officer to have been killed during the IDF’s ground operation in the Gaza Strip, bringing the Israeli military death toll since the ground invasions started last weekend to 18.
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2nd para is most important, this further adds weight to the theory that the IDF went into the kibbtutz and killed the militants AND their own people during the initial Hamas assault, some houses sustained major structural damage, bodies were riddled and charred and some were decapitated, Settllers like Yasmin Porat also confirmed this.
Alot of the damage in the houses was done by heavy weapons, the videos of the militants shown by the IDF clearly show hamas with machine guns and rifles. macjhine guins and rifles would not cause this damage.
Pic of one of the houses in Be’eri,
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An Israeli tank commander who was hailed as a hero for his actions during Hamas’s attack on Be’eri kibbutz, the scene of one of the worst massacres on 7 October, has been killed while commanding his tank battalion in northern Gaza.
Lt Col Salman Habaka, 33, a member of Israel’s Druze minority, had rushed to Be’eri with his troops when news of the Hamas attack broke on the morning of 7 October, bringing two tanks to the kibbutz, which engaged members of the militant Islamist group in houses where they were hiding.
He is the most senior officer to have been killed during the IDF’s ground operation in the Gaza Strip, bringing the Israeli military death toll since the ground invasions started last weekend to 18.
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2nd para is most important, this further adds weight to the theory that the IDF went into the kibbtutz and killed the militants AND their own people during the initial Hamas assault, some houses sustained major structural damage, bodies were riddled and charred and some were decapitated, Settllers like Yasmin Porat also confirmed this.
Alot of the damage in the houses was done by heavy weapons, the videos of the militants shown by the IDF clearly show hamas with machine guns and rifles. macjhine guins and rifles would not cause this damage.
Pic of one of the houses in Be’eri,
Indeed, white settlers from Europe colonised the Americas, (N and S America and Canada) and Australasia and Africa and Asia, subjugating the indigenous people.
Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood who formed in the 1920's.
"The terrorist organization Hamas is a “wing of the Muslim Brotherhood,” according to the Hamas Charter. The Charter calls for the murder of Jews, the “obliteration” of Israel and its replacement with an Islamist theocracy."
"The Brotherhood assassinated Anwar Sadat in 1981 for making peace with Israel. It also assassinated Egypt’s prime minister in 1948 and attempted to assassinate President Nasser in 1954."
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You're getting all your information from an Israeli or US web site.
That IDF site that you presented a littlle while ago is a travesty of the reality.
Maybe they smuggled a 4.5" field gun in from Egypt through the tunnels, then towed it behind a paraglider? Or a motorbike?
Can you get NATO style tow hitches for paragliders?
If the whole thing was partly a setup, i.e. Israel knew and allowed it to happen in order to start the war, but didn't want to be seen as the aggressor, it wouldn't matter what damage IDF did in the aftermath of 7/10, it would be blamed on Hamas anyway.
According to Israel.
lol so biased...
when it comes to violence and terrorism from the Palestinians you are quite happy to call a spade a spade
When it comes to the atrocities committed by the Zionist side - you say 'we are where we are'.
Your bigotry and racism is very evident. I'll be kind and say perhaps it's so deeply entrenched that you don't even realize it. Unconscious bigotry and bias is a very real phenomenon.
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I say that because going back 4000 years like you did is a bit silly. We need to move forward , not back.
Because I hate a racist terrorist organisation whose stated aim is to eradicate Jews? Wow.
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