legal system

[Sombrero]

i love this country, and the premise that you're innocent until proven guilty. Quite like case law, and the whole thing seems to work.

What i don't like it the battle between a tean of prosecution lawyers, and defence lawyers... the crime seems to be forgotten in the battle !

they're like leeches !!!

#justmyopinion

 

[joinerjohn]

Ahh I don't know how some of these defence lawyers sleep at night. They must realise at some point their defendant is as guilty as sin, yet carry on.
All I can say is the pay must be bloody good.

PS, the only thing that seems to be forgotten in the vast majority of cases, are the actual victims. They certainly seem to have far less rights than the bloody crims these days.

 

[Sombrero]

Ahh I don't know how some of these defence lawyers sleep at night. They must realise at some point their defendant is as guilty as sin, yet carry on.
All I can say is the pay must be bloody good.

PS, the only thing that seems to be forgotten in the vast majority of cases, are the actual victims. They certainly seem to have far less rights than the bloody crims these days.

couldn't agree more...

so it comes down to money.. i.e the best legal team you can afford... so as stated, how do these defense lawyers sleep at night? unbelievable!

 

[JBR]

PS, the only thing that seems to be forgotten in the vast majority of cases, are the actual victims. They certainly seem to have far less rights than the bloody crims these days.

Doesn't that seem to be the case these days? And they wonder why crime is on the increase.

Of course, it's a well-known fact that lawyers, win or lose, always win.

 

[securespark]

Sorry to be a stuck-up tw@t, but it's fewer, not less.

 

[Graeme1983]

The mrs is a lawyer. She says the main goal of the lawyer is to make sure that the defendant whoever it is has their legal rights respected. Thats why even when you had the Italian fella who defends Milosevic and Charles Taylor and the verdict was already decided, the lawyer defended them to make sure their rights were respected.

The mrs has only defended burglers so far or sadly for and against people in debt but even when its open and shut the legal process needs to be served, usually by asking for clemency. This is just as a junior though and she'll probably go into a different field when finished.

If the legal process is not respected, you see things like the Perugia case where the American girl got off on a series of errors by the police:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Meredith_Kercher

 

[Graeme1983]

Not all legal eagle types are bad though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FPKOa-5GPPg

 

[libby lou lou]

Well worth the wait 30 min wait. See it was as recent as this month, good find.What do you think joe?

 

[mdf290]

Lawyers can only be as fair as the law allows them to be.

If stupid laws are passed such as the race hate and hate crime laws which instead of preventing serious racial hatred and promoting harmony simply silence democratic free speech and create racial tension then the lawyers will act unfairly also .

At the end of the day a lawyer is paid whichever side he works for. If all lawyers decided to act on altruistic principles and only defend people they believed to be innocent then the justice system would grind to a halt.

If you don't have a lawyer in a criminal case one will be provided for you by the state.
In a civil case however if you cant afford a lawyer and the state wont provide one via legal aid then basically you have to defend yourself.

Lawyers must know that by taking that career choice they are giving up their ability to act according to their own personal morals and instead will at some stage be asked to defend the indefensible.

The actions of lawyers protecting rapists for example go far beyond just ensuring the rapist has a free trial and using their privileged position (which like the police enables them to be immune from defamation and libel and slander prosecutions ) allows them to lie fabricate and defame people on a level which in any other circumstane outside of a courtroom would result in the accuser being massively sued.

 

[Graeme1983]

The Pistorius case also looks like the police have been fouling up, which might let him off whether he did it or not:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/20/oscar-pistorius-case-police-blunders

 

[chapeau]

If you get accused of a crime then you need a lawyer. The cops and prosecution do this thing day in day out and know the system and all the tricks. You need somebody to level the playing field, and that's your own lawyer.

I've always thought that if it's serious enough for them to arrest me, it's serious enough for me to get a lawyer involved. So that would be my 'line in the sand' so to speak.