logical step for Labour is to reverse Brexit

[carmanmemoranda]

glad to see you couldn't back up your daft opinion.

Glad to see you've missed the point too.

Is it deliberate ?

 

[aveatry]

I was uninformed and ignorant.

I could see the BS on both sides and realised that there was not enough info -so I didn’t vote at all --if I had made my thoughts about it at the time YOU would have called me a conspiracy theorist. - Nope - just smarter than you, and always ahead of the curve.

 

[aveatry]

Since covid wages of CEOs of FTSE 100 have risen 75%
Since covid ordinary citizens wages adjusted for inflation are worse of

I don’t care how much people earn, I only care about the wealthy extracting assets out of the economy making ordinary citizens have poor std of living



I care about the wealthy extracting all the assets out of the country causing the majority of the citizens to suffer stagnating wages and massively expensive rents, energy bills and food bills


U.K. has poor standard of living abd high wealth inequality compared to equivalent other countries.


But Motorbiking wants to create a strawman by claiming it’s jealousy

So you say over and over again but you NEVER offer your solution apart from going back in time and stopping Thatcher selling a few rotten council houses.

 

[Notch7]

So you say over and over again but you NEVER offer your solution apart from going back in time and stopping Thatcher selling a few rotten council houses.

says Aveatry who never offers any solutions and is too weak to ever say what he stands for

the solution is:

1) change the voting and parliamentary system, until this country stops lobbyists and rich donors from influencing policy we will always be at the mercy of populists like Farage, Tice, Johnson

2) break up the media and regulate it so we no longer have 3 billionaires controlling the narrative -why is Farage getting away with his appalling racist past, if that had been a Labour MP the media wouldve been front page headlines daily for weeks and weeks

 

[Notch7]

I could see the BS on both sides and realised that there was not enough info -so I didn’t vote at all --if I had made my thoughts about it at the time YOU would have called me a conspiracy theorist. - Nope - just smarter than you, and always ahead of the curve.

you are a brexit supporter and a Reform party supporter

you have never ever posted a single criticism of either

if I had made my thoughts about it

you dont have any thoughts about it, you are ignorant of the facts

realised that there was not enough info

yes there was

I could see the BS on both sides

there was no equivalence

what Remain side predicted has indeed largely come true, its what we are suffering today

its true that they exaggerated the immediate affect but long term they were correct, the leave side just sold emotive slogans

 

[aveatry]

says Aveatry who never offers any solutions and is too weak to ever say what he stands for

Why you you just keep pointing at others saying they are weak for not saying who they support - when you yourself never do - you do not fully support Labour you have said yourself you only voted for them as the least worse option to get cons out but who would you really like to vote for - you never say - is it because you are a coward and dare not say.
I dont like labour I dont like greens - cons are useless, wont vote lib dem ever again. So I may as well not bother voting - or as I have donbe on many occasions written across the ballot paper - none of the above and that is my vote.

the solution is:

1) change the voting and parliamentary system, until this country stops lobbyists and rich donors from influencing policy we will always be at the mercy of populists like Farage, Tice, Johnson

2) break up the media and regulate it so we no longer have 3 billionaires controlling the narrative -why is Farage getting away with his appalling racist past, if that had been a Labour MP the media wouldve been front page headlines daily for weeks and weeks

Is that it - just those 2 things will end the wage gap between rich and poor that you keep wanging on about

 

[aveatry]

I was uninformed and ignorant.

I could see the BS on both sides and realised that there was not enough info

yes there was

You are not making sense, you said you were
ignorant -
I said I could see there was not enough info -
you said yes there was
So you were not ignorant - you were stupid. Is that what you are saying.

 

[aveatry]

I was uninformed and ignorant.

I could see the BS on both sides and realised that there was not enough info

yes there was

You are not making sense, you said you were
ignorant -
I said I could see there was not enough info -
you said yes there was
So you were not ignorant - you were just dumb. Is that what you are saying.

 

[motorbiking]

Glad to see you've missed the point too.

Is it deliberate ?

There is no system oppressing you. Your capacity to earn is down to you and your motivation and ability. There will always be people who can't be bothered and people who simply can't. Unfortunately, a government who focuses on lifting up the can't be bothered, demotivates everyone else.

 

[aveatry]

you are a brexit supporter and a Reform party supporter
you have never ever posted a single criticism of either

I had a hammock that I eventually fell through but had it a very long time, it was a German company /Brazilian made I wanted the exact same model but because of brexit the now French owned company say to ship to me they have to charge me £75. So yes I was very disappointed about that.
Didn’t you have a shortage of tomatoes at some point. But never fear with global warming we will be able to grow plenty of our own - with a little help of a bit of CO2 at 1000ppm

 

[carmanmemoranda]

There is no system oppressing you. Your capacity to earn is down to you and your motivation and ability. There will always be people who can't be bothered and people who simply can't. Unfortunately, a government who focuses on lifting up the can't be bothered, demotivates everyone else.

I'm not talking about me.

I'm talking about all the jobs that don't pay enough to live on.

You can cure 1 or 2 people, but keeping so many unable to live on wages isn't good for our economy. Albeit it's good for a few people.

 

[motorbiking]

I'm not talking about me.

I'm talking about all the jobs that don't pay enough to live on.

You can cure 1 or 2 people, but keeping so many unable to live on wages isn't good for our economy. Albeit it's good for a few people.

If you take people who have low value skills and force employers to pay them more, what do you think happens?

 

[Highway Man]

Good to see.

The point was about a low paid job, not a road sweeper per se.

Glad to see you missed the point

You said
"What's wrong with a road sweeper being able to live (not the highlife. But just ordinary) on his/her wages with no need for benefit top ups."
You say you meant a low paid job, yet your post specifically says "road sweeper". We have road sweepers at our place who don't need handouts, good grafters and good lads too.

 

[Notch7]

Nah, you’re alright. I don’t need to be kept updated by anyone who wasn’t savvy enough to vote for Brexit.

the savvy did not vote for brexit

 

[motorbiking]

the savvy did not vote for brexit

17,410,742 idiots - according to you? The country is doomed.