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London murder rate overtakes new york

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bodgeitandleggit, 2 Apr 2018.

  1. JohnD

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    you are foolishly assuming that they only kill other murderers, and that all victims are undeserving subhumans.

    This is not what happens.

    And what do you think the tranny understands by "their own kind?"

     
  2. sodthisforfun

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    I am what? I think what?
    Don't know what you thought you read but you clearly misunderstood.
     
  3. Tony Blairs multi cultural madness has come home to roost, London has become a human jungle, in some parts it is survival of the fittest.
    Acid attacks,shootings,and stabbings this is the social fallout from years of uncontrolled immigration.
    having said that, what has been the response of the forces of law and order, the head of the Met the appropriately named Ms Dick blames the violence on facebook and twitter I am surprised she hasn't blamed Russia as well.
    there used to be what was known as a police force but that has been changed into a police service which entails the police to act as social workers rather than policemen.
     
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  4. JohnD

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    vinty the Putinista thinks there was a time when London was not multicultural.

    It was a long time before London existed.

    How's your multicultural little province, vinty?

    Where do you want the new border posts to be built?
     
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    Do you think this is simply down to immigration? It seems very simplistic to me to blame gang culture on immigration. We've had notorious gang culture from all walks of life in London for many years. Don't think the Krays were particularly a nice couple of blokes and they were white Londoners. Is that before Tony Blah's time?!
     
  6. The Krays didn't go around stabbing people just to steal their trainers or phone, they only targeted other gangsters and kept their violence inhouse so to speak.
     
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    The Krays were all about greed (and it wasn't in house all the time). They started off with a protection racket then went from there... armed robbery etc.
    Stabbing people to steal trainers or a phone has the same motive. Greed.

    So do you think there is more than immigration to this gang thing?
     
  8. Bodgeitandleggit

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    there has always been gang culture ..early teddy boys and the crime was always there but not on the scale what it is today... to me what is happening in london is down to alot of factors ..immigration/drugs/gang on gang but also the deterrent has gone ... little rat stabs someone and its 12months in a nice holiday camp ..reduced to 6 months, then with the lack of police the meek get brave when they see their fellow rats causing mayhem and getting away with it so unless a radical change of deterrent is done these figures will continue to rise
     
  9. IWalkLikeHimaMartian

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    Himmy? Was that mighygob's favorite term for himmagin?
    Welcome back mightygob. In which case you must have been maintaining two usernames at the same time. Was one not enough for you to spout your bile and hatred?
    Or maybe you are using more than two usernames to spout your bile and hatred?

    Because I question your supposition based on your 'facts and figures' I have become a 'bleeding heart liberal'. What is more, because of my (assumed) politics I want to down play the 'multicultural mess you are (I am) promoting in several parts of the country'.
    Silly R&C makes an assertion based on a myth. Only in the opinion of the bigoted RWR is there a 'multicultural mess'.
    On top of that assertion based on a myth, there is another assertion added: 'those who want to drag this country to it's knees'.
    You are jumping from one self-made assumption to ridiculous allegations.
    Typical bigoted RWR stuff.

    Another supposition based on two months figures: that the yearly rate of murders will overtake NYC or Johannesburg.
    Your own source for reference provided the following:
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/01/police-launch-murder-hunt-30th-stabbing-london-year/
    but you chose to ignore that bit, or do you only read the headlines and make assumptions about the details?

    The ethnicity of the perpetrators (or the victims) is of little importance when they are probably born and bred in UK.
    Your prejudice is apparent when you come out with such comments as:
    "can you demonstrate to everyone that the perpetrators of these murders weren't non-white, in a city where they are the minority? Otherwise it's not prejudice, but stating facts."
    You have no facts to justify your assumption. And even if you did, it would be irrelevant if the perpetrators were UK born and bred.

    But as usual the RWR blame the problem on immigration when the problem probably lies elsewhere.
    Of course, there are no immigrants in NYC, so they cannot be blamed there. :rolleyes:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_New_York_City
     
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    Another RWR preaching anarchy.
     
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    They used their 'henchmen' to do it.

    Oh that is OK then. They can be forgiven. :rolleyes:
    The rest of the population understood that the violence would not affect them and they did not feel insecure. :rolleyes:
     
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    You said I was mightygob Himmy. Can't make up your mind?
     
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    Did I? Where did I say that?

    I also said: "Or maybe you are using more than two usernames to spout your bile and hatred"

    "bleeding heart liberal" was also a favourite phrase of gasman**. Was it gasman28, like roger28? There was also another gasman, something like "lifesagasman"
    It was also a favourite phrase of whitespirit, handyjack and norcon.
    Weird that!
     
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    Exactly, there always has been a gang culture. Young people are drawn to it, it's a sense of belonging. It seems to be particularly rife where the home life is unstable and/or poor.
    I agree that it is out of hand now and I also agree that there should be a change with the law and having more police. Not only the law. Social changes, parenting, opportunities for the young, more work with the youth in deprived areas, all these things will go somewhere to stop this violent gang culture.

    I recently tried to watch a documentary on BBC about those kids who steal using their mopeds - phones snatched, other mopeds nicked. I couldn't watch it all because it was winding me up, but these kids had a such a sense of entitlement. They admitted that they could never afford nice phones and things so they just took them because why shouldn't they. They didn't care that someone else had worked hard to earn the money to buy a phone or whatever, they just saw the victim as more privileged than themselves because they would never be able to get a well paid job.
     
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    Must be hard work being so paranoid.
     
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