Mandelson

[blup]

How does that compare to Boris's rise and dismissal, rise and dismissal, loss of Wharsapp messages, rise and dismissal and Enquiry memory lapses?

Borris’ instinct was to lie and hang on for dear life. Starmmers instinct is to be as honest as he can. I’m no fan of Kieth, and would much prefer a pint with BJ, but there is no comparison with the devious cess pit that was Borris administration.

 

[blup]

Same behaviour. Same criticism. Same outcome should apply. Irrespective of party!!!!!!

Am i clear?

Nope. You cannot reduce politics to a tick box

 

[festive]

He was appointed because the Prince of dark ness was thought to be the best fit for supping with the devills in Trumpf’s entourage, many of whom continued close relationships with Epsteen after 2008. As the PM just said Mandy lied when was asked directly during the vetting process about the nature and depth of his relationship with Jeff. He was hardly going to say yes I’ve had some lucrative backhanders from him, some when I was in my under pants. Should he have been appointed based on his known history at the time. Probably not, but none of the media really challenged that, apart from Hisslop at PrivateEye.

Agree the media should have come forward. But it stands he was already known to be good mates with Epstein, social circles and gossip knew that. We all know this in our work and social circles who hangs out with who and that was the risk he was prepared to take meddling with the POD. You're absolutely stupid at this level if you claim not to know, Epstein knew ALOT of people. Perhaps many in the press too.

 

[festive]

Nope. You cannot reduce politics to a tick box

You're just arguing for the sake of arguing now. Time to ignore you.

 

[motorbiking]

Borris’ instinct was to lie and hang on for dear life. Starmmers instinct is to be as honest as he can. I’m no fan of Kieth, and would much prefer a pint with BJ, but there is no comparison with the devious cess pit that was Borris administration.

BJ was over trusting and made poor people choices.
KS is just arrogant and ignores advice.

Similar result.

 

[festive]

Borris’ instinct was to lie and hang on for dear life. Starmmers instinct is to be as honest as he can. I’m no fan of Kieth, and would much prefer a pint with BJ, but there is no comparison with the devious cess pit that was Borris administration.

Now you are embarrassing yourself, or just more gullible than i thought.

You honestly believe yesterdays overturn by Rayner and co was about Starmers instinct to oh wait be fully transparent and honest no that was Rayner and co reminding him to be so.

End of discussion with you until you take off your labour underpants.

 

[motorbiking]

 

[martygturner]

For my two pennies worth, Madelson was the ideal choice for US ambassador, slimy,lying to your face type that had no issues playing the dirty political game that is US politics, knew all the players ie Trump and the mega rich that run trump... its a grim world in US of A land and to be frank you need a grim git not tea and cakes chap.
Having said that.. I would laugh my leg off if he went down for a stretch.

 

[blup]

Agree the media should have come forward. But it stands he was already known to be good mates with Epstein, social circles and gossip knew that. We all know this in our work and social circles who hangs out with who and that was the risk he was prepared to take meddling with the POD. You're absolutely stupid at this level if you claim not to know, Epstein knew ALOT of people. Perhaps many in the press too.

If you ask a murderer what happened and he says self defence , you still make other enquiries which is what vetting is about. Vetting couldn’t possibly have revealed the backhanders.

 

[blup]

Now you are embarrassing yourself, or just more gullible than i thought.

You honestly believe yesterdays overturn by Rayner and co was about Starmers instinct to oh wait be fully transparent and honest no that was Rayner and co reminding him to be so.

End of discussion with you until you take off your labour underpants.

As honest as he can be, no comparison with Borris.

 

[blup]

BJ was over trusting and made poor people choices.

He decided if someone was completely loyal to him they were going to be good at the job. As a result , the sensible talented centre right core of the party was annihilated

KS is just arrogant and ignores advice.

Similar result.

KS studied the rules and concluded he could swig beer. Borris thought ( if he thought at all) f**k it, let’s party.

Highly dissimilar.

 

[blup]

For my two pennies worth, Madelson was the ideal choice for US ambassador, slimy,lying to your face type that had no issues playing the dirty political game that is US politics, knew all the players ie Trump and the mega rich that run trump... its a grim world in US of A land and to be frank you need a grim git not tea and cakes chap.
Having said that.. I would laugh my leg off if he went down for a stretch.

He’s an amateur compared to the way Trumpf’s cabinet have blatantly enriched themselves

 

[blup]

End of discussion with you until you take off your labour underpants.

lol not even Mandy had to do that.

 

[Murdochcat]

The problem Starmer has is that very few voters believed a word he said before this sorry affair

Now I suspect only the rabid left still cling on to the hope he’s telling the truth

 

[blup]

The problem Starmer has is that very few voters believed a word he said before this sorry affair

Now I suspect only the rabid left still cling on to the hope he’s telling the truth

What did you expect from an economy saddled with Covid furlough and austerity debt? The underlying economic problems of the country aren’t cured because the right wing vote temporarily shifts to Labor