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MP's could Steal Brexit...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bodd, 5 Dec 2018.

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  1. Ian H

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    Please forgive him, his is a rabid, retarded quitter who believes anything he reads on the internet:

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  2. Doppleganger

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    I doubt if transam is the first or only one to suggest 'civil unrest is looming' in the event of no Brexit.
    Is it about generating support for civil unrest? Or is it about warning that civil unrest might result if Brexit does not happen? Or is it about floating the idea that civil unrest might result in Brexit if democracy is respected?
    Please do offer your insight why posters persist in suggesting that civil unrest might happen instead of playing around with the semantics of words that I have used.
     
  3. Doppleganger

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    Please provide a link to the quote so that we can understand the context.
     
  4. Ian H

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    That’s the opening post of a thread so there is no previous information to link. Ellal is warning of, maybe even threatening, civil unrest. So maybe your question would be better off aimed at him.

     
  5. noseall

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    Do you think it was more?
    Certainly greater than the "Brexit means Brexit" flakes.:mrgreen:
     
  6. Why do you need to understand context when you're ready to pass judgement elsewhere regardless of?
     
  7. ellal

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    Oh dear, notchy...

    I've been very consistent!

    The UK FPTP electoral system is undemocratic...

    The 'Parliamentary Democracy' (which is the result), is the one quitters wanted to 'take back control' of our country...

    However now it appears to have 'taken back control', quitters don't seem to like the direction it may well be going in...

    Thus it is the quitters that are up in arms - as the system they wanted to exert itself now appears to be giving them 'squeaky bum' time (y)
     
  8. Nothing to do with the system and everything to do with those in control of it.

    As said, many leavers didn't want a deal. If May had the backbone to forge a deal worth offering to brexiteers there would be a different scenario.
     
  9. Bodd

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    It's a Double B side.

    Turn it over and its the same dribble but funkier.
     
  10. ellal

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    The point is quitters wanted to take back control of things that they (wrongly perceived) to be dictated to them by an (again wrongly perceived) 'undemocratic' EU...

    Only to find that they have no real control over our (wrongly perceived) 'parliamentary democracy'...

    There is no mystery about the fact that those that are as you say 'in control of it', do so for their own interests and their own interests alone!

    It is our undemocratic system that allows that 'control', and unless the system itself is reformed/overturned then whatever Brexit (or not) occurs, nothing fundamental as regards democracy in this country will change!
     
  11. So what you're saying is government remainers and opposition remainers are fighting each other and causing chaos over a deal brexiteers don't want.

    Got ya.
     
  12. ellal

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    Au contraire...It's a deal nobody wants!

    Brexiteers wanted I believe a clean break - unrealistic but understandable from their misinformed point of view.
    Remainers wanted to remain in the EU.

    Our opportunistic MP has flip flopped over the years, but came out as a brexiteer for purely selfish reasons...

    But I have asked him to vote against the deal (which is imo more remain than leave) in the hope that the following chaos will allow a second vote...
    He on the other hand apparently wants a 'no-deal' so will vote the way I wish for a totally different reason!

    It is our undemocratic electoral system that creates such bizarre 'make a deal with the devil' scenarios, and which will carry on doing so to the detriment of the country as a whole!
     
  13. I refer you to this:

     
  14. ellal

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    Hey, so you have a closed mind - that's your choice (y)

    Fairly obvious of course, but maybe one day you'll take a huge risk and have a peek at the alternatives :)
     
  15. Not at all, just no point in wasting my time going over your copypasta again and again.

    You've not said anything new, interesting or insightful so you're just waffling.
     
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