NHS finally being privatised - Paying more for less

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I'm in favour of some privatisation, not completely. Far too many people don't take responsibility for their health because they know they can get free health care, perhaps it will encourage people to take care of themselves better and stop being so fat and lazy, which probably forms the bulk load of what the NHS has to deal with. 9/10 health problems are self inflicted. I'm in favour of contributing towards costs, paying to see a GP, etc. Don't want lung cancer? don't sit around on the dole smoking ciggies and swigging tinnys all day watching jeremy kyle. NHS is seen as a bottomless pit, which is a problem.

The US has a system like many third world countries if you can't pay you don't get treated - but that has not reduced obesity so the idea that if you had to pay you would look after yourself is a false argument.

So we should stop people coming in who have been injured playing football, cricket etc?

The idea that 9/10 are self inflicted is just rubbish and you know it.

As you are young you don't use the service much but as you age you will most likely need to even if you keep in shape. The problems with what you are suggesting is like in the US - insurers dont want to insure older people, so one illness even if its not even severe could bankrupt you or you end up delaying treatment until its too late.

Unfortunately you have been sold a pack of lies about how healthcare can be improved. The current system even with its faults is still more cost effective.

The NHS is not a bottomless pit - there are limits to treatment, you simply cannot get it out of your head that you think all the fault lies with foreigners when it does not.

The government has used that as a convenient excuse to trick you.
The countries in your graph: how are their healthcare systems funded? Are they all free at the point of entry?

That graph includes both public and private health expenditure. In the US if you walk into casualty without insurance you will be treated or patched up and sent home. The problem is that many people with treatable and manageable diseases like diabetes delay the treatment for so long they come in with horrible complications and need urgent and expensive acute treatment which ends up being more costly than if they could be treated earlier - a stitch in time saves nine.
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