Not if your judgement was that it was safer not to mix new and old colours in the same installation.could be, but wouldn't that make an error of judgement?
Yes, for full compliance with BS 7671.The regs aren't abundantly clear here, but i thought april 2006 was the cut off point for installation of old colours. Following a 2 year transition period from april 2004 ?
Also permissible without such marking. i.e. it is permissible to do that, and still issue an EIC certifying compliance with BS 7671 apart from the departure of using old colours.I suppose old colours would be permissable, if appropriately marked at the terminations.
It depends what I am doing, i.e. if someone was paying for new materials then I will use new materials.
If on the other hand I am repairing something old I may opt to use the old coloured cables as to avoid confusion.
Insofar as this clearly wasn't installed last week, or even last year, it doesn't exist, I grant you that.i think you're in danger of reading too far into a scenario that may not exist.
They've only not complied with the colours - in all other respects they still do.If you have all your ammo ready to defend installing cables which haven't complied since 2006, then go for it! no probs at all.
Why would you be embarrassed to do as much as you could to make your work safe?Me, on the other hand, would feel a bit embarrassed if asked why i did a job yesterday with cable that is probably over three years old.
Depends on what I was doing. If I was altering or extending an existing installation which was red & black I'd rather comply with the law and avoid deliberately introducing unnecessary dangers.Which would you rather do, use current colours, sleeve old colours to current colours or put in writing on an EIC that you are using outdated materials?
No reason that you can't do both, if you have new (as in not previously used) cable in old colours.It depends what I am doing, i.e. if someone was paying for new materials then I will use new materials.
If on the other hand I am repairing something old I may opt to use the old coloured cables as to avoid confusion.
I never suggested that you couldn't.actually, just to point out, that i can see its quite obvious that this wasn't installed yesterday,
I never suggested that you were.You may note the use of emoticon at the end of my post where i suggested that this may have been done last week. This to some may have suggested that i wasn't being 100% serious with this comment.
I never suggested that you couldn't.actually, just to point out, that i can see its quite obvious that this wasn't installed yesterday,
I never suggested that you were.You may note the use of emoticon at the end of my post where i suggested that this may have been done last week. This to some may have suggested that i wasn't being 100% serious with this comment.
I wasn't arguing - I was agreeing with you about the non-existent scenario.oh, that ok then. It just seemed that your responses were overly dry and without really appreciating the apparent spirit and focus of the thread from the OP, then develop a somewhat tangential arguement based on a mildly humourous comment.
Given that there is more than one attribute with which the cable must comply, it is perfectly possible for it to comply with some of them but not all.oh, BTW, "They've only not complied with the colours - in all other respects they still do."
Thats a bit meaningless, if it doesn't comply, then it doesn't comply.
Please read the final sentence of 120.3.I'm sure you wouldn't say the same if someone got a shock and it was found that there was no earthing to an installation. 'Well, m'lud, the install complied in all respects except for the required provisions of ADS'
a dangerous arguement me thinks
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