Old Thorn fluorescent starter

[ericmark]

And there are what may be sodium lamps

Careful, I did have a spare sodium lamp, until my wife looked for a bulb in my garage and found it and fitted it to a standard E27 light fitting without the control gear, bang, needed a new fuse and sodium lamp when in the bin.

 

[Maxiii]

Careful, I did have a spare sodium lamp, until my wife looked for a bulb in my garage and found it and fitted it to a standard E27 light fitting without the control gear, bang, needed a new fuse and sodium lamp when in the bin.

Ha ha It’s OK I am not a wife!

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

There’s a MH control gear on ebay at the moment you have probably seen it.

I've just been out to again investigate the fitting, it's actually a 35w, and needs a Vossloh-Swabe electronic ballast EHXc 35.309. It's a very compact size of fitting, so only that exact item will fit, and they are not cheap, unless someone has one surplus?

The actual fitting is the very same one, that Nat West used to favour, over their outdoor ATM's

I've yet to delve into the ballast, to see if that might be repairable.

It would be much more cost-effective, to just buy an LED item complete.

 

[SUNRAY]

I've just been out to again investigate the fitting, it's actually a 35w, and needs a Vossloh-Swabe electronic ballast EHXc 35.309. It's a very compact size of fitting, so only that exact item will fit, and they are not cheap, unless someone has one surplus?

The actual fitting is the very same one, that Nat West used to favour, over their outdoor ATM's

I've yet to delve into the ballast, to see if that might be repairable.

It would be much more cost-effective, to just buy an LED item complete.

If it helps to sway you, there were about 8 of the 70W MH lamps around a church near here, as they have failed 3 have been replaced with Osram fittings something like vange model and all of those have been replaced at least once each, they are now trying excuelight (how it sounds spoken could be XQ) which have been recommended but only into a few months so I don't know how they are fareing yet. None of the MH's have failed since way before covid, maybe 10 years but LEDs are not proving to be more reliable.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

None of the MH's have failed since way before covid, maybe 10 years but LEDs are not proving to be more reliable.

Some of the LED fittings, fail to take into account, the adequate heat dissipation needs of the electronics.

 

[morqthana]

None of the MH's have failed since way before covid, maybe 10 years but LEDs are not proving to be more reliable.

I read once that some manufacturers of (either MH or SON- I can't remember which) commercial lighting would put timers in them to make them fail after x'000 hours so that customers had predictability which they could plan around. That was their justification, anyway.

 

[333rocky333]

I have one fitted under the eaves, to light up the vast back garden area, when necessary via a remote control, which it isn't normally. Last time it was switched on, was when the police knocked at the door, asking if they could investigate a potential reported intruder, by next door.

In the drive, I have a big old HP sodium fitting, which likewise is only there for emergencies. I have a spare, identical 70w MH fitting, which just needs a replacement control gear, for which I have two new, spare lamps. My intention was, to take down the sodium, to replace it with the much neater MH fitting, if I could manage to repair the control, or source a replacement somewhere.

Hi Harry, I do a lot of shopfitting and MH gradually disappearing, I have some new 70w electronic ballasts, often there's room to remove the ballast and ignitor and slip them inside, if your stuck and interested message me.
Orbis 70 ballasts or similar as are the ignitors are still about but likely 40 pound or so

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Hi Harry, I do a lot of shopfitting and MH gradually disappearing, I have some new 70w electronic ballasts, often there's room to remove the ballast and ignitor and slip them inside, if your stuck and interested message me.
Orbis 70 ballasts or similar as are the ignitors are still about but likely 40 pound or so

It's a small combined unit, installed in a casing just big enough, and a 35w, but thanks anyway.

 

[333rocky333]

I've just been out to again investigate the fitting, it's actually a 35w, and needs a Vossloh-Swabe electronic ballast EHXc 35.309. It's a very compact size of fitting, so only that exact item will fit, and they are not cheap, unless someone has one surplus?

The actual fitting is the very same one, that Nat West used to favour, over their outdoor ATM's

I've yet to delve into the ballast, to see if that might be repairable.

It would be much more cost-effective, to just buy an LED item complete.

Hi Harry missed this, I have 35w as well as above message me if your interested, let us know dimensions, will do you a vert good deal

 

[SUNRAY]

Some of the LED fittings, fail to take into account, the adequate heat dissipation needs of the electronics.

Oh yes I know about some of those but I think both models tried so far have been decent makes

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Hi Harry missed this, I have 35w as well as above message me if your interested, let us know dimensions, will do you a vert good deal

It would need to be a very good deal, including delivery - to make it worth my while, versus the alternative of a new LED. I've just delved in a bit deeper, and found it had a 15amp fuse, which was o/c, on the pcb. I tried bridging that, but it blew the replacement, so the only way is a replacement electronic ballast.... I'll PM you!

As you can see in the photo, the present ballast just fits, with no wasted space at all. It is 67 x 103 x 31mm, with the terminals along the 67mm side.