Have you been working at the new retail park there? I got the same one when working at the new Boots store in October last year.
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Have you been working at the new retail park there? I got the same one when working at the new Boots store in October last year.
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No, Mrs Secure parked there.
Did you get a Notice To Driver (on the screen) or a Notice to Keeper (in the post) BEFORE you got the letter I scanned in?
I'm interested to know if they routinely bypass this first step.
Did you get a Notice To Driver (on the screen) or a Notice to Keeper (in the post) BEFORE you got the letter I scanned in?
I'm interested to know if they routinely bypass this first step.
To be honest, you may be better taking it up with the shop or facility she used, to exceed 3 hours you must have been in somewhere for quite some time, each outlet can usually access the system themselves, on the day, they can log you as exempt and after the event they can usually still submit notes, we occasionally forget to get logged and get a Pcn and most get overruled, but they do want to see proof why you overstayed, receipts may even help if she spent a few bob.
Round here the cinemas, Bingo etc even Lidl have a keypad on entry in the store where you can log yourself as they want your custom and many people want to take in a meal and a film.
Round here the cinemas, Bingo etc even Lidl have a keypad on entry in the store where you can log yourself as they want your custom and many people want to take in a meal and a film.
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Have sent a letter as MB kindly advised.
In the meantime, I have seen this: is this advice still valid or not? For example, the bit about their losses? I can't see how their losses are anywhere near £100, especially when the parking is free.
In the meantime, I have seen this: is this advice still valid or not? For example, the bit about their losses? I can't see how their losses are anywhere near £100, especially when the parking is free.
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3:11,7:48 - Is important as without Authority of the landowner they have no license to operate the "service" they are trying to enforce. 9:33 is valid also trespass is scuppered as an argument for damages for trespass as they are not in exclusive possession of the land which is a requirement. On the missing/poor/signs/info argument its still good. They have to establish the contract and can be put to strict proof.
4:28,6:21 - "unenforceable penalty" is no longer valid as per the high court case I posted earlier in this thread.
Any claimant can recover the listing fee and the hearing fee as costs. 11:58 I'm surprised the district judge allowed him to claim his costs, it must have been purely because they didn't turn up.
4:28,6:21 - "unenforceable penalty" is no longer valid as per the high court case I posted earlier in this thread.
Any claimant can recover the listing fee and the hearing fee as costs. 11:58 I'm surprised the district judge allowed him to claim his costs, it must have been purely because they didn't turn up.
https://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?473531-UKCPS-parking-ticket-appeals-abuse
saw this (don't know whether it is any use or not though)
saw this (don't know whether it is any use or not though)
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Be extremely cautious about following any "successful" strategies pre 4 November 2015.
After that date the whole unenforceable penalty argument collapsed. Read p116 on in the judgement (my earlier post). They are no longer unenforceable penalties (FYI penalties in contract law are generally unenforceable, unless they can reasonably be attributed to losses or pre-estimated Liquidated Damages), but commercial geared incentives to ensure performance.
After that date the whole unenforceable penalty argument collapsed. Read p116 on in the judgement (my earlier post). They are no longer unenforceable penalties (FYI penalties in contract law are generally unenforceable, unless they can reasonably be attributed to losses or pre-estimated Liquidated Damages), but commercial geared incentives to ensure performance.
From the Citizens' Advice website i linked to earlier.
Take the following steps to appeal a Parking Charge Notice:
1. Check if a parking company is a member of an accredited trade association (ATA)
Check the British Parking Association (BPA) or International Parking Community (IPC) websites to see if a parking company is a member of an ATA.
You can also call the BPA on 01444 447 300 to check if a company is a member. Calls to this number can cost up to 12p a minute from a landline, or between 8p and 40p a minute from a mobile (your phone supplier can tell you how much you’ll pay).
Don’t pay a parking ticket from a company that’s not an ATA member. They can’t take you to court because they can’t get your details from the DVLA. They can only chase you for a parking ticket if you give them your address, so don’t contact them.
If you get a ticket in the post from a non-ATA member, report them to Action Fraud because the company could have got your details illegally.
So, would a good first step to establish whether UKCPS were an ATA member?
(If they are not, might that explain why they do not send NTKs?)
Take the following steps to appeal a Parking Charge Notice:
1. Check if a parking company is a member of an accredited trade association (ATA)
Check the British Parking Association (BPA) or International Parking Community (IPC) websites to see if a parking company is a member of an ATA.
You can also call the BPA on 01444 447 300 to check if a company is a member. Calls to this number can cost up to 12p a minute from a landline, or between 8p and 40p a minute from a mobile (your phone supplier can tell you how much you’ll pay).
Don’t pay a parking ticket from a company that’s not an ATA member. They can’t take you to court because they can’t get your details from the DVLA. They can only chase you for a parking ticket if you give them your address, so don’t contact them.
If you get a ticket in the post from a non-ATA member, report them to Action Fraud because the company could have got your details illegally.
So, would a good first step to establish whether UKCPS were an ATA member?
(If they are not, might that explain why they do not send NTKs?)
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Thanks, fellas.
I don't know if they are members of ATA, but will look into it.
I don't know if they are members of ATA, but will look into it.
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This from the IPC website:
The International Parking Community (IPC) is a progressive DVLA Accredited Trade Association (ATA)
The International Parking Community (IPC) is a progressive DVLA Accredited Trade Association (ATA)
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They will know that they cannot succeed in a claim agains the keeper if they failed to follow the requirements that give them the right to claim. They cannot unfail by starting over.
Just pay up ffs. 
Nosey, give me £100.Just pay up ffs.
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