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Johnmelad502
That is not a requirement of Portable Appliance Testing.
That is not a requirement of Portable Appliance Testing.
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Have a read of the IEE code of practice for inservice inspection and testing.
I cannot believe some of the stuff your coming out with, if it was 1st April I would have taken this as a wind up!!!
I cannot believe some of the stuff your coming out with, if it was 1st April I would have taken this as a wind up!!!
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Johnmelad502
We are talking about PAT in hotels and tourist accommodation. Low risk environments such as hotel rooms and offices.
If you have information not available to me, I stand to be corrected. That said, try searching the H&S executive website. That is where my information comes from.
PAT is a visual requirement, no specialist equipment required. End of story.
It very much is, I'm afraid.
I assume that with your clamp meter, you are doing some sort of leakage test? Well, the leakage test (or protective conductor/touch current measurement, as it's called nowdays) is additional or complimentary to the insulation test, and should only take the place of it if the appliance may be damaged by the insulation test, or give suspect readings.
As JBPElectrics suggests, get hold of a copy of the IEE Code of Practice (3rd ed.), and have a good read, as it looks like you're making some of this stuff (not all mind!) up as you go along.
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Johnmelad502
I think you are getting confused between PAT and Periodic testing. Not the same thing at all.
Nope, no confusion on my part. I know exactly what I'm talking about.
Been doing PAT for long enough!
Have a read of the IEE CoP and it will all become clear to you...
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Johnmelad502
If the Health and Safety Executive disagreed with you, would you still believe that a Code of Practise was better informed?
Whatever the HSE ask for is a minimum requirement, and I'd be pretty unhappy if I had someone carry out portable appliance testing and discovered they were only performing a visual inspection. However, if both you and the hotel owner are happy with your arrangement then nobody here is going to stop you.
You might liken this to BS7671, which is not statutory, but we all have to comply with it.
Do you have a link to the h&s document please?
The advice from the HSE & the IEE/IET is consistent. Again, read the IEE CoP if you don't believe me.
It looks like you've taken the combined inspection & test initial frequency for some Class II items in a low-risk environment, and tried to apply it to other environments and construction classes.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
Soory, there seems to be a lot of confusion here. You seem to think that the visual is the only thing required for a PAT. Not true you need to do the visual and the tests, the tests differ by category of item, the insulation test is just one and is a requirement.
Test equipment is needed and its not cheap, 1000 ish new. You need to be able to show yor equipment is calibrated.
1.80 is a very reasonable charge, oh and you do need to provide records of your tests, the green sticker is not enough, someone gets a shock takes you to court where are your records to show the results of the test you did on the day.
You are not doing your hotel owner a favour by doing it cheap from what you have posted you are not delivering a PAT service that would stand up to scrutiny in court if ever anything happened
Test equipment is needed and its not cheap, 1000 ish new. You need to be able to show yor equipment is calibrated.
1.80 is a very reasonable charge, oh and you do need to provide records of your tests, the green sticker is not enough, someone gets a shock takes you to court where are your records to show the results of the test you did on the day.
You are not doing your hotel owner a favour by doing it cheap from what you have posted you are not delivering a PAT service that would stand up to scrutiny in court if ever anything happened
Nope, I can't see a list of specific tests for different appliance types and the order in which they should be carried out.
Your own links are stating testing is required.....what on earth (excuse the pun) are you upto.....You are putting members of the public at risk, the hotel owner at risk and your own family home at risk, you really do need to look into this a bit more.
For me to pat test more than 12 items an hour I am not being thorough, I have all insurances, equipment and certification.
For me to pat test more than 12 items an hour I am not being thorough, I have all insurances, equipment and certification.
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