RCBO query

[Deleted member 310928]

Feck me!

If this nutter didn't block me and was able to view my posts, I would've shown him what he has done wrong.

 

[morqthana]

OMG it's you that ruined the thread and you cant even see it...jjeeezzzzz

Tell me, Pete, what should I do?

When faced with utterly groundless, patently unfair, unreasonable, and unjustifiable criticism, what should I do?

When ridiculed and insulted, what should I do?

These are real questions - I really would like to know what you think I should do.


Blaming me for not putting up with Harry rudely dismissing perfectly reasonable and clear questions as unintelligible gibberish really is an awful lot like punching someone without provocation and then blaming them if a fight starts.

 

[pete01]

Tell me, Pete, what should I do?

When faced with utterly groundless, patently unfair, unreasonable, and unjustifiable criticism, what should I do?

When ridiculed and insulted, what should I do?

These are real questions - I really would like to know what you think I should do.


Blaming me for not putting up with Harry rudely dismissing perfectly reasonable and clear questions as unintelligible gibberish really is an awful lot like punching someone without provocation and then blaming them if a fight starts.

Turn the other cheek? It's not that big a deal

 

[diy_fun_uk]

As this thread is already ruined by a nutcase, reply back to this message, with anything, just to make your message count hit 7,000. You're one post away to hit that milestone.

Just reached by replying in another thread!



I wonder who has the highest message count?

 

[morqthana]

Turn the other cheek?

Hell will freeze over first.

I will not, nor should I have to, sit passively by and allow people to attack me just because they fancy it.

Even Sunray, one of my arch critics, agrees with that principle.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

My next door neighbour just knocked on my door to say they are thinking about cutting the grass today and did I think it was a good idea.

I replied with a very straightforward:

What type of grass is it?
When was it laid?
How often is it watered if we go through a dryish spell?
Is there a slope? If yes, what gradient and what % of the lawn is sloped?
Did you take a temperature and humidity reading?
What's the weather forecast?
What make and model is your lawn mower?
Is it maintained in accordance with the manufacturers instructions?
Are you trained to operate the mower in the correct manner?
Do you have protective clothing, eye protection and ear protection?
Have you checked to make sure none of the immediate neighbours are on night shift?
Do you have any family or friends due to visit who might unintentionally interrupt the work?

That my friend will give you the answer you seek.

 

[morqthana]

Yup - very incisive, and a brilliantly observed, truly excellent, analogy of "What's 9500 divided by 240?"

 

[SUNRAY]

What kind of distortion are you referring to?

Mechanical bending?
Heat warping?
Or anything else that I’m not aware of?

I've encountered several over the years,
An example of mechanical damage being a vertical tower fan heater with a spiral wound spring style element supported every couple of inches or so (50mm) with mica washers (for want of a better description), I suspect the fan had been dropped as all of the mica pieces had broken and a significant amount of the element was bunched at the bottom shorting out.
For thermal; my own heater: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/...mp-or-16amp-oven-2.571426/page-2#post-4969976 post~16

And is this a short between adjacent turns of the element? A short to the sheath?

Both of those are not involving any sheath and the tower is class 2

And would that that short between turns of a resistive wire be relatively low impact due to small voltage differences between adjacent turns? Or am I missing something?

How much was it approx?

Both of those involved significant parts of the element shorting and overloading the OCPD, when only a turn or two are shorted it's highly likely it will never be noticed, the most likely effect witth be a dark spot in the glowing element.

Thanks. Useful information.

 

[SUNRAY]

Hell will freeze over first.

I will not, nor should I have to, sit passively by and allow people to attack me just because they fancy it.

Even Sunray, one of my arch critics, agrees with that principle.

I don't particularly agree with that statement. There are other ways at not being criticised, as I see it I only have one critic whereas you appear to have multiple critics... Hmm I wonder what the difference is?

 

[morqthana]

I don't particularly agree with that statement. There are other ways at not being criticised,

Well, OK.

So given this:

I refuse to put up with people posting insults and abuse and then be the one criticised for doing things to spoil threads.

Don't then - you don't have to.

I refuse to put up with being told I'm jabbering for daring to ask someone why he agreed with someone else saying I was.

Don't then - you don't have to.

what do you think I should do to "not put up with" things like that?

Clearly you don't think I should do what you do when you object to things said to or about you, which is to answer back, so what do you think I should do?

as I see it I only have one critic whereas you appear to have multiple critics... Hmm I wonder what the difference is?

The difference is that there are more children here, and more people motivated by personal animosity, and more people who think that abuse and insults are acceptable, than there are people who want posts to be intelligent, and rational, and civil, and where appropriate based on evidence and facts, and to be reacted to, replied to, and discussed in the same way.

 

[ebee]

I do not really think that the "Stop Jabbering" remark was helpful at all.

If we agree on the premise that an MCB should not be allowed to run on its curve (overloaded) then exactly the same applies to an RCBO.

 

[pete01]

Posts 1 to 8 is all that was needed.

 

[pete01]

I do not really think that the "Stop Jabbering" remark was helpful at all.

That was me, please all accept my sincere apologies..... everyone happy?

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Blaming me for not putting up with Harry rudely dismissing perfectly reasonable and clear questions as unintelligible gibberish really is an awful lot like punching someone without provocation and then blaming them if a fight starts.

You were being ridiculously pedantic, trying to prove just how clever you are, pointing out principles that we all already were well aware of. As such, you left yourself wide open to being criticised.

 

[morqthana]

You were being ridiculously pedantic, trying to prove just how clever you are, pointing out principles that we all already were well aware of. As such, you left yourself wide open to being criticised.

I wasn't being pedantic - I just wanted to find out what sort of time you meant when you said "a matter of minutes".

I wasn't trying to prove just how clever I am - I just wanted to find out what sort of time you meant when you said "a matter of minutes".

I wasn't pointing out principles that we all already were well aware of - I just wanted to find out what sort of time you meant when you said "a matter of minutes".

I just wanted a straightforward answer.

How does that justify me being criticised?

How does that justify the dismissal of what I wrote as being unintelligible gibberish, or make that description true?