rip out warm air heating

[bengasman]

Best to ignore b.b. as he is one of those people who knows all about everything, and likes to ride his hobby horses. If he was a gas installer, he could have developed a preference, but he isn't.
Just a bored old man trying to get attention.

 

[gas4you]

WARNING

If you want to take the advice of someone who is incompetent, unqualified and has never fitted a boiler, warm air unit, unvented cylinder or an accumulator in his life, then go ahead and listen to Big Burner.

All his information is obtained from brochures and the internet, which you can do equally as well yourself. In both mediums, manufacturers are always going to paint their products in a good light. Just search his previous, outrageous posts on here and then see for yourself. The only posters that appear to agree with him are those that are him using a different 'alias' and talking to himself.

He can never offer any qualified reason for his posts and always comes back with some pathetic off topic slur against anyone who exposes his true incompetence.

BB, you are still the laughing stock of this forum. RIP

(from the way his post is laid out, it is obvious he has just copied and pasted the info from the Johnson & Starley website, he hasn't a clue waht it all means though )

 

[stardanny]

A tip for you,

Don't forget that some of old warm air unit may have asbestos stuff in like heatshield, flue gasket rope, some has asbestos outer heatbrick. We have had some in council houses.

The heating contractor will have to do a full survey of the house and if found to have asbestos in warm air unit, they have to add cost to quote as they have to get specialist contractor in to remove it.

Dan.

 

[BigBurner]

To the OP.

The advice you will get here, off the predominately "plumbers", which is drains centric, is put water pipes in. Heating engineers they are not.

You need solid advice and do not be swayed by the inexperienced bathroom changers.

 

[simond]

It is true you can replace some warm air units with fan coils, this is an expensive option but theoretically gives the best of both worlds, when used with a combi front end.

Trouble is, it is difficult to find a domestic-designed fan coil with inbuilt modulation control.

We have found the latest warm air units have given reliability problems and as most will be aware, there is only a choice of one remaining supplier in the UK, who gives a 1 yr warranty. As such, while I am a fan of warm air (no pun intended) I no longer offer replacements. There are systems using condensing boilers and modulating controls in France and Belgium, but they are not approved for sale in the UK.

 

[nickso]

you have to wonder how long J+S have left in business anyway.
whilst their roomsealed WAU's are a vast improvement over the older ones their reliablilty is poor.

you may be jumping on the bandwagon but you have a far larger choice of wet boilers than WAU. after all its not as if rads dont heat your house or anything.

 

[gas4you]

To the OP.

The advice you will here, off the predominately "plumbers", which is drains centric, is put water pipes in. Heating engineers they are not.

You need solid advice and do not be swayed by the inexperienced bathroom changers.

Exactly the response expected from an untrained, unqualifed idiot that has no personal experience of anything posted in this forum

Didn't I say as much in my post above

 

[BigBurner]

you have to wonder how long J+S have left in business anyway.
whilst their roomsealed WAU's are a vast improvement over the older ones their reliablilty is poor.

Reliability of forced air is v good. J&S sales are good and they do commercial stuff.

 

[mickyg]

you have to wonder how long J+S have left in business anyway.
whilst their roomsealed WAU's are a vast improvement over the older ones their reliablilty is poor.

Reliability of forced air is v good. J&S sales are good and they do commercial stuff.

If they were doing so well they wouldn't be knocking out cheap rubbish combis. Stop talking rubbish. Anyone with any business sense and knowledge of the heating market can see that they're going to struggle with domestic sales.
As usual your just making it up as you go along.

 

[swbjackson]

you have to wonder how long J+S have left in business anyway.
whilst their roomsealed WAU's are a vast improvement over the older ones their reliablilty is poor.

Reliability of forced air is v good. J&S sales are good and they do commercial stuff.

You harp on about the need for extra servicing on unvented cylinders then recommend a product that, if faulty, can deliver CO around the whole house in a very short time. Warm air needs to be serviced on a regular basis and is generally dearer than a standard boiler to service through the need to remove components every time to check the heat exchanger integrity.

 

[nickso]

you have to wonder how long J+S have left in business anyway.
whilst their roomsealed WAU's are a vast improvement over the older ones their reliablilty is poor.

Reliability of forced air is v good. J&S sales are good and they do commercial stuff.

the reliability of the roomsealed units i see is not good.

i wasnt aware of their commercial sales but they still must be ****ting themselves off the chasm of dropped residential sales.

 

[mattylad]

Was going to say dave 4k did you miss the area of the house.

Whats has the area of the house got to do with it?

Do you put the price up for the areas with richer people in?

 

[johnlewis]

Johnson & Starley have some superb replacement forced air units
with advantages:

• Electrostatic air filters -recommended for asthmatics.
• Modulating burners
• Modulating fans
• Very quiet.
• They also cool by moving air in summer.
• No rads.
• Even temperature around rooms
• Rapid room temperature heat up
• Room Temperatures can be set to a few degrees lower
• No water leaks
• No sludging up of radiators and boilers
• Outside air ventilation can be added
• Heat recovery from extracted air can be added.
• Heat recovery from air extractors can be incorporated.
• Humidification can be added without much hassle.

Try all that with rads.

The modern forced air units by J&S are a world away from the older units
too. They will transform a system. The reason forced air is not installed is more due to ignorance and lack of skills.

Some forced air units have wet copper coil heater batteries heated by a boiler. Many use high flow combis, so DHW is taken care of. That means the boiler heats via air ducts rather than radiators. The system can be slit, forced air and rads.

well that is all good but

the antique boiler lives in a cupboard in the kitchen which i would like to remove and make the kitchen bigger.
the utility room has no heating in it and the warm air cant be extended.
one of the bedrooms is smaller because the duct runs up from the kitchen and is boxed in which can be removed.
i cant board the attic out as the floor is covered with ducts.

 

[johnlewis]

Was going to say dave 4k did you miss the area of the house.

Whats has the area of the house got to do with it?

Do you put the price up for the areas with richer people in?

i find this is the case , once they see the house they think we are loaded and can pay anything.which is not true

 

[swbjackson]

Was going to say dave 4k did you miss the area of the house.

Whats has the area of the house got to do with it?

Do you put the price up for the areas with richer people in?

The floor area of the house not the geographical area although I suppose richer people have larger houses.